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Offline Cryptinox

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Proof unbaptized babies don't go to heaven?
« on: August 20, 2021, 12:51:16 PM »
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  • This is is similar to my last thread. I don't want this to be debate thread I just want theological proof that unbaptized infants don't make it to heaven. I know the position they can is a novelty but this seems to be held by many novus ordites and indulters. I thought Florence was a hands down no debate refutation of that error but I don't think it is anymore.


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    Re: Proof unbaptized babies don't go to heaven?
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2021, 12:55:41 PM »
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  • Pope Saint Zosimus, Sixteenth Council of Carthage, 418 AD: “Canon 3.1. If any man says that in the kingdom of heaven or elsewhere there is a certain middle place, where children who die unbaptized live in bliss (beate vivant), whereas without baptism they cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven, that is, into eternal life, let him be anathema. For when the Lord says: ‘Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of God’, what Catholic will doubt that he will be a partner of the devil who has not deserved to be a coheir of Christ? For he who lacks the right part will without doubt run to the left.”

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    Re: Proof unbaptized babies don't go to heaven?
    « Reply #2 on: August 20, 2021, 12:56:21 PM »
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  • Not only do they not go to heaven, they in fact go to hell. Limbo is in hell.

    https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09256a.htm

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    Re: Proof unbaptized babies don't go to heaven?
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2021, 01:07:08 PM »
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  • I remember hearing the transcript of the exorcism of Annelise Michael and the priest ask somethijg about aborted babies and thru replied " they go up "

    I know demons can lie , but I just thought it was interesting

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    Re: Proof unbaptized babies don't go to heaven?
    « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2021, 02:02:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: Holy Ecuмenical Council of Florence, SESSION 6, 6 July 1439
    But the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straightaway to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains.
    https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecuм17.htm
    That meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church. (Dei Filius)