Author Topic: Possibly falling into despair depression (Read 29769 times)

Arvinger · « **Reply #90 on:** July 26, 2016, 12:34:52 PM »

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Never pretend that you know more than the Church.

I just quoted the infallible teaching of the Church that non-Catholics cannot be saved, which you publicly reject - that is all I did.

Stubborn · « **Reply #91 on:** July 26, 2016, 12:35:03 PM »

LoE is a big adherent to EENS, as long as you agree that it means what the Novus Ordo definition is...... "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation."

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #92 on:** July 26, 2016, 12:39:30 PM »

I beg you for your own sake don't fall into the trap Ladislaus and Stubborn have fallen into. The pit Doctor against Doctor and Pope against Pope. This is a trick of the devil.

Arvinger · « **Reply #93 on:** July 26, 2016, 01:09:25 PM »

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I beg you for your own sake don't fall into the trap Ladislaus and Stubborn have fallen into. The pit Doctor against Doctor and Pope against Pope. This is a trick of the devil.

You repeat that like a broken record. The problem for you is that no Pope taught that non-Catholics can be saved, they all affirmed what the Athanasian Creed teaches and what I affirm - those who die as non-Catholics cannot be saved. Evidently you can't touch the Athanasian Creed with a ten foot pole, because it refutes your heresies. It is you who pit Suprema Haec Sacra against unanimous teaching of the Fathers and the dogmatic teaching of the Magisterium that non-Catholics cannot be saved.

Now please repeat loudly after the Athanasian Creed: "Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly."

Oh, wait, that's not what you believe...

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #94 on:** July 26, 2016, 01:28:15 PM »

I don't want you to be outside the Church at the moment of death for rejecting Church teaching and teaching errors.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #95 on:** July 26, 2016, 01:41:52 PM »

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I beg you for your own sake don't fall into the trap Ladislaus and Stubborn have fallen into. The pit Doctor against Doctor and Pope against Pope. This is a trick of the devil.

You repeat that like a broken record.

I see that you're getting to know this clown.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #96 on:** July 26, 2016, 01:43:06 PM »

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I don't want you to be outside the Church at the moment of death for rejecting Church teaching and teaching errors.

So now you declare it heresy that puts one outside the Church to affirm that only those who hold the Catholic faith can be saved. You are an abomination and an anathema.

:heretic:

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #97 on:** July 26, 2016, 02:37:28 PM »

Are you crying again? Get something for those raging hormones.

Stubborn · « **Reply #98 on:** July 26, 2016, 02:49:41 PM »

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Are you crying again? Get something for those raging hormones.

I must say, your being raised in the anti-Church shines through when you are pegged red handed.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #99 on:** July 26, 2016, 02:58:29 PM »

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Are you crying again? Get something for those raging hormones.

songbird · « **Reply #100 on:** July 26, 2016, 03:05:14 PM »

Ladiislas: For what it is worth, of all the posts, I agree with you. I read the about Fr. Feeney and I read about error/communism in the USA and in Europe and how Pius XII had little power left. I read the docuмents and Feeney saved souls in those colleges and nuns and priests came forward. Schools in the once furniture store set up to uphold the church dogmas. Fr. Feeney was a good fighter for the Faith.

Lover of Truth: Chaos or Christ?! Do you see yourself as a priest/bishop maybe god?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #101 on:** July 26, 2016, 03:33:59 PM »

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Fr. Feeney was a good fighter for the Faith.

Why yes, yes he was.

tdrev123 · « **Reply #102 on:** July 26, 2016, 05:03:55 PM »

I think now is the time for Matthew to ban LoT (E), he essentially told someone not to post the athanasian creed and he denies it himself clearly. He is not Catholic.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #103 on:** July 27, 2016, 05:37:22 AM »

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I think now is the time for Matthew to ban LoT (E), he essentially told someone not to post the athanasian creed and he denies it himself clearly. He is not Catholic.

Show me where I denied it Alebard.

Arvinger · « **Reply #104 on:** July 27, 2016, 05:53:32 AM »

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I think now is the time for Matthew to ban LoT (E), he essentially told someone not to post the athanasian creed and he denies it himself clearly. He is not Catholic.

Show me where I denied it Alebard.

Right here:

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Only true Catholics have any chance to be saved. Those who die as non-Catholics cannot be saved.

That would be true were it not false.

By declaring that non-Catholics can be saved you directly deny the Athanasian Creed which teaches (just like all the Popes and Magisterium of the Church) that only Catholics can be saved and that no one can be saved unless he holds the Catholic faith.