Author Topic: Possibly falling into despair depression (Read 35490 times)

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2011, 12:36:43 PM »

Quote from: Arborman

"WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Romans 10:13

For judgment without mercy to him that hath not done mercy. And mercy exalteth itself above judgment. James 2:13

Bishop Williamson in a sermon on you tube clearly indicates that the flood caused many people to be saved because as they were dying they called out to God for mercy.

What does romans 10:13 mean to you?

Arborman · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:15:13 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

Quote from: Arborman
"WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Romans 10:13

For judgment without mercy to him that hath not done mercy. And mercy exalteth itself above judgment. James 2:13

Bishop Williamson in a sermon on you tube clearly indicates that the flood caused many people to be saved because as they were dying they called out to God for mercy.

What does romans 10:13 mean to you?

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ora pro me · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2011, 03:54:37 PM »

CuriousCatholic,

Do you have a Traditional Catholic priest whom you can talk to about the issues that you bring up here? If you don't currently have one, begin now to find one.

I believe you have mentioned before that you are not living near a Traditional Mass and Sacraments center. If that is correct, could you possibly take this time to travel to an area where you could be close to the Mass and where you could either find a job opr learn some skills that would help you to find employment? I realize that may be a luxury that is beyond your current state, being unemployed, but at least to put some kind of plan into action in that regard.

Also, I discussed this thread with a young man about your age who is a Traditional Catholic and asked him what he would tell you. He suggested that I ask you if you know about http://tradcircle.ning.com/ He tells me that there are lots of young Tradtional Catholics there who may be able to either give you some advice with what you're dealing with, or at least you could find some other young Traditional Catholic folks for some good friendship.

Lastly, but rather this is always first: Pray your Rosary every day and never skip your 3 Hail Marys every morning and every night. Read True Devotion to Jesus through Mary by St. Louis Marie de Montfort, and grow in your devotion to your heavenly Mother. Pray to her often for the grace of perseverance in the Faith.

God bless you.

Sigismund · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2011, 06:06:34 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Part of your problem is that you interpret EENS in a Feeneyite/ absolutist way.

It is possible for non-Catholics to be saved not because of their false religion but in spite of it, though that path is perilous and rare.

Your job is to be a good example, pray for these people, and be available to gently nudge them in the direction of truth. Sledgehammer methods of constantly calling them out to their face only builds resentment and they write you off. So sometimes the best course is that less is more.

Salvation is up to God. You can point out objective things they are doing wrong, but the subjective elements are to be judged by God. I'd concentrate on fulfilling your own obligations and leave these people to God's Divine Judgment.

Exactly!

Stubborn · « **Reply #24 on:** October 09, 2011, 07:52:00 AM »

Quote from: curiouscatholic23

I once posted this question on fisheaters once and everybody laughed at me but its really serious.

My religion is starting to distance me more from my family and "friends." For example, not eating meat on Fridays, is something a lot of my family and friends find unusual.

Yes, as a faithful Catholic, it is a sad occurrence that you'll soon find that you have less and less in common with friends and family - your interests are unique or weird and they have no interest whatsoever in what is important to you, as such, becoming distant, even disowning them because of the faith is often necessary. That's just the way it is.

Mat. 10:36 And a man's enemies shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me

Luke 12:51Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. For there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided: three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against his father, the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother, the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

As for the No Salvation dogma, concern yourself with your own salvation - be very, very selfish in this regard and do whatever it is you need to do for *you* to persevere till the end. Beyond that, there is only so much you can do, mostly pray and do penance for the conversion of poor sinners, that's what Our blessed Mother told us to do. Almost 100 years ago Our Lady showed souls falling into hell like snow flakes in a blizzard to the Fatima children - for me the most difficult part of that to accept is that they all chose their eternity, yet I accept that because that's how it is.

If you discover that you have a calling to be a priest, God's will be done! Other than that, we must be prudent. As lay folk, we should not be telling anyone they will go to hell - we can say they commit mortal sin by contraception, carousing etc - but even then, there is a time and a place for everything and one must be prudent in their dealings with others.

As for MHFM, be very cautious there. They have some good stuff, same as some NOers - Michael Voris comes to mind - but IMO, finding a good trad priest for your spiritual adviser will be a huge source of consolation - seek one out.