Author Topic: Possibly falling into despair depression (Read 35833 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #60 on:** July 25, 2016, 12:53:53 PM »

Quote from: Lover of Truth

No Salvation Apart From Water is a new dogma Feeney invented and the disobedient prelate is the cause of great chaos even until this day.

Such a nitwit as you.

What chaos is caused by preaching that the sacraments are absolutely necessary for salvation? What is the danger of preaching that outside the Church there is no salvation? You act like it's a heresy to preach the Catholic faith.

So spill the beans already and have it over with.

What chaos is caused by preaching that the sacraments are absolutely necessary for salvation? What is the danger of preaching that outside the Church there is no salvation? Who gets scandalized and how?

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #61 on:** July 25, 2016, 12:55:20 PM »

Quote from: Matto

I feel similar to how the OP felt. I think nearly everyone I know is going to hell and when I think about it it makes me sad. I was going to make a longer post with details of how I felt and believed but after I typed it I thought it would cause controversy so I decided not to post it.

It is quite sad. Hopefully in some instances the "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." will come into play.

Hopefully there are some sincere people out their with a supernatural Faith who really will to do God's will and love Him more than anything else. Hopefully some people who commit mortal sins in the objective realm are ignorant of this fact through no fault of their own.

Matto · « **Reply #62 on:** July 25, 2016, 12:59:47 PM »

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It is quite sad. Hopefully in some instances the "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." will come into play.

Hopefully there are some sincere people out their with a supernatural Faith who really will to do God's will and love Him more than anything else. Hopefully some people who commit mortal sins in the objective realm are ignorant of this fact through no fault of their own.

One thing I do is count the number of traditional Catholics in my city and think, that is the amount of people in my city who have a good chance to be saved. So in my city there are maybe a thousand traditional Catholics (based on Mass attendance) so that means about one in every five thousand people or so has a good chance to be saved.

(Not counting those who die before the use of reason)

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #63 on:** July 25, 2016, 01:17:51 PM »

Quote from: Matto

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It is quite sad. Hopefully in some instances the "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." will come into play.

Hopefully there are some sincere people out their with a supernatural Faith who really will to do God's will and love Him more than anything else. Hopefully some people who commit mortal sins in the objective realm are ignorant of this fact through no fault of their own.

One thing I do is count the number of traditional Catholics in my city and think, that is the amount of people in my city who have a good chance to be saved. So in my city there are maybe a thousand traditional Catholics (based on Mass attendance) so that means about one in every five thousand people or so has a good chance to be saved.

(Not counting those who die before the use of reason)

Right. Only true Catholics have a good chance to be saved and many of us are in trouble. If many of us saw our souls as God sees them we might die of fright. It is a scary thing to consider.

Many people also know when they commit a mortal sin even if in their mind they think of it as "doing something wrong". They feel the guilt pang the first time they do it as God has written the law on our hearts. Many people claim to love our Lord but do not and will not be saved.

Sadly there are some who partake of the outer bonds of dis-unity with heretical Church's whose lives appear to put some traditional Catholics to shame whether they partake of the inner bonds of unity within the Mystical Body of Christ or not. Despite the fact that they could be within the Church by desire because of a supernatural Faith and perfect charity it appears to be far more likely, generally speaking that many or most of them could in regards to their apparent charity towards one another have only a natural charity not rooted in the love of God above all things.

There are others who grew up Catholic and by all appearances have rejected the Faith such as Mother Theresa and all the false Popes and they are in much worse shape than those, who through no fault of their own, never had the Faith to begin with. It is said to think that by all appearances that Mother Theresa is damned as in the natural realm she put most, if not all to us to shame in regards to all the natural good she did. But that is the reality of it.

Matto · « **Reply #64 on:** July 25, 2016, 01:36:14 PM »

I should say, lest some think I am pessimistic, that I do beleive God will save some who are not traditional Catholics by conversion and repentance but I think this would be extraordinary and that those so saved are not saved in the normal way as traditional Catholics would be. So they do not have a good chance of being saved though they might get "lucky."