Author Topic: Possibly falling into despair depression (Read 35326 times)

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:01:11 AM »

Infinitefaith, salvation has nothing to do with numbers. God is not obliged to save a certain number of people. Those who obey him will be saved, be they 98% of the world or just 2 or 3 individuals.
For example: God says:"Thou shall not kill." and it doesn't matter whether the number of murderers is small or large.
It is the people's fault if they don't enter the church. The other thing to keep in mind is that faith always leads to action. The way you believe affects your life. So those who believe in false religion will do things that the false religion wants. So they are to be lost even if salvation could be found outside the church.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:03:13 AM »

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This is something I struggle with. I hear people say there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, but when you think about it that probably means that 80% of the world has no chance of salvation. And of the remaining 20%, only a certain percentage of those will achieve salvation. This is why I am uncertain of any dogma that preaches there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Isn't it possible that a Protestant could repent of his/her sins and not go to hell for any repented Mortal Sin? They just wouldn't be reconciled with Jesus Christ because they don't have the Eucharist. They might go to Purgatory in order to be reconciled with Jesus Christ after being purged by flame. Just some thoughts.

Do you find it difficult to believe that all but 8 humans died in the Great Flood because they chose not to get in the Ark?

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:21:12 AM »

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I have this desire to preach to everyone I see about the true catholic religion, vatican II, and sedevacantism.

Right now I am unemployed, but this desire could get me fired in the workplace. For example, lets say I am in the corporate world and my boss is a contracepting protestant heretic like the majority of america. What if I told him one day, "hey Boss, I like you as a person but I gotta tell you something for your own good: you are in a false religion and you are on the road to hell."

If I said that I would get fired ASAP and I could never keep a job in this economy. So what am I supposed to do, keep my mouth shut and hide from the truth??

Simple. You shut up about it. As you said before, you already got friends and relatives to worry about who are on the highway to hell. Why are you concerning yourself with this stranger?

Personally, I'll say something if someone is publicly out of line (being obscene etc.), but generally I keep admonishments regulated to my friends (who are non-catholic), and only those that I know well enough to where they know I'm telling them out of love and not because I need to preach. I recommend you try and do the same.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:25:40 AM »

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..... I am uncertain of any dogma that preaches there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.

You doubt a dogma of the Church?

Id have to see it for myself before coming to any conclusions.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:29:11 AM »

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This is something I struggle with. I hear people say there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, but when you think about it that probably means that 80% of the world has no chance of salvation. And of the remaining 20%, only a certain percentage of those will achieve salvation. This is why I am uncertain of any dogma that preaches there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Isn't it possible that a Protestant could repent of his/her sins and not go to hell for any repented Mortal Sin? They just wouldn't be reconciled with Jesus Christ because they don't have the Eucharist. They might go to Purgatory in order to be reconciled with Jesus Christ after being purged by flame. Just some thoughts.

Do you find it difficult to believe that all but 8 humans died in the Great Flood because they chose not to get in the Ark?

Good Point. But they did not go to Hell right away.