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ServantOfTheAlmighty · « **Reply #35 on:** October 15, 2011, 01:12:51 AM »

Feeney was condemned by the Holy Office. This means nothing.

Heliocentrists were condemned by the Holy Office. And that meant nothing.

Pepsuber · « **Reply #36 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:59:54 AM »

Quote from: trad123

Isn't the usual saying, all who were outside the ark perished. When that's said it's not merely meant the body, but also the soul.

I don't believe it is referring to their souls perishing, as St. Peter says that they went to the Limbo of the Fathers (1 Peter 3:18-20):

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[18] Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit, [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: [20] Which had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water.

So at least some of those who perished bodily in the Flood were saved by Christ.

Geremia · « **Reply #37 on:** July 24, 2016, 10:30:53 PM »

Quote from: curiouscatholic23

I have this desire to preach to everyone I see about the true catholic religion, vatican II, and sedevacantism.

Right now I am unemployed, but this desire could get me fired in the workplace. For example, lets say I am in the corporate world and my boss is a contracepting protestant heretic like the majority of america. What if I told him one day, "hey Boss, I like you as a person but I gotta tell you something for your own good: you are in a false religion and you are on the road to hell."

If I said that I would get fired ASAP and I could never keep a job in this economy. So what am I supposed to do, keep my mouth shut and hide from the truth??

There might be situations where you are obliged not to speak the truth but to stay quiet. Even Jesus had to hold back the full truth with the Apostles. If He flat-out and right-off-the-bat said "I am going to be crucified," all the Apostles probably would have deserted Him before His public ministry began. It wasn't until later in the Gospel of John that they were ready to hear the full truth.

I think the solution is to solely work with Catholics. We're commanded not to "bear the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Corinthians 6:14). I have tried collaborating with fellow Catholics in starting up businesses, but unfortunately there is a lot of reluctance to doing this. Hence, I am self-employed. We Catholics really need to abandon usury-powered Corporate America and setup our own alternate economy.

Fortes in fide.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2016, 08:50:10 AM »

This isn't even about "Feeneyism" per se. OP described people committing mortal sin. Yes, they would be lost if they died in that state. Yes, >90% of all the people in the world right now are likely not in a state of grace. That has absolutely nothing to do with Father Feeney. Nor does the fact that Father Feeney had a "narrow" view of EENS change the fact that these people are in a state of mortal sin. Stop blaming every darn thing in the world on Father Feeney.

OP and several other posters on this thread reveal once again that EENS-rejection comes from a place of emotion rather than from theology. Yes, it's very sad that fornicators go to hell (if they don't repent). But are we to doubt that now as well just because it's sad?

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #39 on:** July 25, 2016, 08:58:26 AM »

Feeney puts people who have a supernatural Faith and are not guilty of mortal sin in Hell. That could be a pretty sizable number of people.