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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Possibly falling into despair depression
« Reply #125 on: February 17, 2025, 04:17:28 PM »
Listen to someone who left after realizing the Dimonds are a cult.

During my 7 years (2011-2018) with MHFM, I zealously participated in the dissemination of their evangelical material. But in 2018, after several relevant pastoral, human relationship, and theological issues / questions remained unresolved / unanswered by the Dimonds, after repeatedly warning them, I became convinced that severing ties with them was legitimate, in order, and completely justified.

http://la-foi.fr/mhfm/en/index.aspx

No, those are the ones people should LEAST listen to, because they are not objective, have personal contempt for the Dimond Brothers, like many EENS-haters do, and so they restor to slander and spin everything they can in a negative light against the Brothers.

Please stop spamming your slanders against the Dimond Brothers on this forum.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Possibly falling into despair depression
« Reply #126 on: February 17, 2025, 04:19:24 PM »
Yes. Keep your mouth shut unless you are asked to do something immoral.
 There is a time and place for everything.

What's the point of addressing a post written in 2011, 14 years ago now?

I see that someone necro-bumped this thread, which had died years ago, and maybe you didn't notice, but I doubt the person is in the same state that they were in back then.


Re: Possibly falling into despair depression
« Reply #127 on: February 17, 2025, 05:14:17 PM »
Young people need to realize that they need to make new friends that share the same Christian values.  There are meet ups.  Maybe they can create thread in members only thread to meet up after mass for a hike or other activities.  Maybe game night Catholic monopoly or Catholic categories. 




Re: Possibly falling into despair depression
« Reply #128 on: January 27, 2026, 04:02:30 PM »

But if you look into the history of the Benedictines, they are actually TRADITIONALLY a non-centralized and non-hierarchical order, unique among religious Orders in that regard, where the individual houses actually maintain a certain amount of autonomy outside of submission to the Holy Father, which all Catholics must do anyway (as per Vatican I).  If certain congregations join up or coalesce or have some working relationship, it's voluntary, and there's no Benedictine "Superior General" or any other semblance of hierarchy.

In fact during the Hoyle lawsuit, the Benedictine Mother House in Rome was consulted, and the representative reiterated the Traditional view that per the nature of the Benedictine Order anyone who professes to follow the Rule of St. Benedict can call themselves Benedictines.

Brother Joseph Natale never having formally professed does not preclude him from having started another Benedictine Congregation, and his initial intention was to found one that accommodated men with disabilities, and then later it transformed into a Traditional house after the Council began to ravage the Church.  He went off to do this, in the spirit of the Benedictine Order, on his initiative and with no required formal relationship with his original monastery or permission from his "superior" at his original house.  He did this during the Vatican II era and before the Modernistic "reforms" had actually made their way out to impacting the lives of average Catholics.
The fact that Benedictine Monasteries are autonomous does not mean that any lay person can start a monastery and become a monk on their own volition.  Although the Benedictine order doesn't bind them to any law, they are still bound by canon law and divine law.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Possibly falling into despair depression
« Reply #129 on: January 27, 2026, 04:53:31 PM »
Bottom line is that any Trad Catholic who holds that non-Catholics can be saved (regardless of the question regarding BoD proper) is a schismatic, since the entire Vatican II theological system, the ecclesiology, the subjectivist soteriology, they are all the logical consequences of such an ecclesiology, and you'll note that this question has nothing to do with BoD, and the only reason it factors in at all is because many EENS-haters constantly use it to deny EENS and hide behind it to justify their rejection of this thrice-defined dogma.

As for your arguments, "transeo" (I will pass over for now).

...but even in a worst-case, it would still be better than being a Dimondite.
Specifically, even as a "schismatic" you would have a better chance of salvation than someone who follows the Dimond brothers.

Of course I'm half joking here -- strictly speaking, you aren't "more likely" to go to Hell for murder vs. sins of the flesh. They will both get the job done. I'm just making a point here.

I hope you're not defending the Dimond brothers just because they happen to agree with you on BoD, EENS, etc.

Don't forget that even a broken clock is right twice a day.