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Roman Catholic · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2011, 02:35:38 AM »

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..... I am uncertain of any dogma that preaches there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.

You doubt a dogma of the Church?

Id have to see it for myself before coming to any conclusions.

So you can't state that you adhere with docility to all Dogmas of the Catholic Church?

You must see them all first, to decide for yourself if they are true?

trad123 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2011, 08:41:50 AM »

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Do you find it difficult to believe that all but 8 humans died in the Great Flood because they chose not to get in the Ark?

Good Point. But they did not go to Hell right away.

Isn't the usual saying, all who were outside the ark perished. When that's said it's not merely meant the body, but also the soul.

Sigismund · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2011, 09:18:37 AM »

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..... I am uncertain of any dogma that preaches there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.

You doubt a dogma of the Church?

Id have to see it for myself before coming to any conclusions.

EENS is a dogma of the Church. Exactly what it means as well as how it works out in individual cases is not. Most Catholics, historical and currently, have accepted this dogma without concluding that everyone who is not explicitly a Catholic at death necessarily goes to Hell. God is perfectly just and perfectly merciful and more than capable of working it our.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2011, 09:38:37 AM »

Novus Ordo Catholics can go to Heaven. Unfortunetly though, because they are involved in a watered-down version of the Faith alot of them will be in sin. But they can still be saved. If, however, they know the TLM is the superior Mass yet reject it anyway, they cannot be saved unless they repent.

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This is something I struggle with. I hear people say there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, but when you think about it that probably means that 80% of the world has no chance of salvation. And of the remaining 20%, only a certain percentage of those will achieve salvation. This is why I am uncertain of any dogma that preaches there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Isn't it possible that a Protestant could repent of his/her sins and not go to hell for any repented Mortal Sin? They just wouldn't be reconciled with Jesus Christ because they don't have the Eucharist. They might go to Purgatory in order to be reconciled with Jesus Christ after being purged by flame. Just some thoughts.

Christ said many times in the Bible that very few people make it to Heaven. So that being the case, why would it be hard to comprehend that most people don't go to Heaven?

Arborman · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2011, 09:41:12 AM »

"WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Romans 10:13

For judgment without mercy to him that hath not done mercy. And mercy exalteth itself above judgment. James 2:13

Bishop Williamson in a sermon on you tube clearly indicates that the flood caused many people to be saved because as they were dying they called out to God for mercy.