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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #320 on: January 20, 2026, 09:39:02 AM »
Quote from: Angelus on December 15, 2025, 07:03:26 PM
Here is the revised version of the monograph. Awaiting your charitable criticisms.

NO !!!

You still cling to this bizarre definition of "Salvation" as referring only to the state of going immediately to Heaven after death without needing to pass through Purgatory.  Traditionally, all those who end up in the Kingdom are considered to have been "Saved", regardless of whether they had to spend some time in Purgatory.

That alleged "contradiction" between Pope Pius IX and EENS dogma has long been resovled.  Pius IX is teaching nothing other than what St. Thomas taught that those who do not place obstacles in the way of salvation will be led EVENTUALLY or ULTIMATELY to eternal life and salvation, not that they would attain it if they died in that current state, before having been enlightened by grace.
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Offline ihsv

Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #321 on: January 20, 2026, 02:18:20 PM »
Lad, Angelus' "Monographs" are just AI generated slop that he cuts and pastes.

Armchair theologians + AI = cringy spam
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Offline Merry

Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #322 on: January 22, 2026, 06:12:44 PM »


Someone in the comment section about Bishop Fellay and the FL confirmation, posted this -  


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Offline St Giles

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #323 on: January 22, 2026, 08:25:41 PM »
Where and when does the doctrine of BOB/BOD originate? I have seen it mentioned in an early 1900's book of Catholic doctrine, and in a 1892 lives of the saints, not that those prove anything other than how long such teaching has been around for without being removed from books.
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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« Reply #324 on: January 22, 2026, 08:36:02 PM »
Quote from: St Giles on January 22, 2026, 08:25:41 PM
Where and when does the doctrine of BOB/BOD originate? I have seen it mentioned in an early 1900's book of Catholic doctrine, and in a 1892 lives of the saints, not that those prove anything other than how long such teaching has been around for without being removed from books.
Early church, some saints speculated on it some did not. Eg. St Gregory nαzιanzus denied BoD but accepted BoB. 
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