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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #255 on: December 13, 2025, 08:41:58 PM »
This is just BS and a denial of the necessity of baptism and of the Chruch.  It sounds like some new-age, Protestant fairy tale where all the “good” people that died outside the Chruch will get a pass and have the same reward as Catholics.  

If you want to argue that those in limbo eventually go to the New Earth, then that’s plausible.  But they would NOT enter the new heaven.  Nor would their original sin be remitted somehow.  That’s heresy. 

For the 53rd time, you comparing Moses to an invincibly ignorant native is blasphemy.  Moses followed the Old Law; the native Indian followed the natural law, only.  Moses was circuмcised.  Moses believed in the redeemer.  The ONLY THING Moses lacked was baptism, which he received in Limbo.  The native Indian believed in no God, or one that was general.  He had no religion.  He worshipped God in no significant religious way.  The 2 are INCOMPARABLE.  
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Offline Angelus

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #256 on: December 13, 2025, 08:43:49 PM »
Quote from: WorldsAway on December 13, 2025, 08:39:51 PM
So infants who die with Original Sin and any Invincibly Ignorant who are in limbo will have Original Sin remitted from their souls?

Again, everything will be made new. Just like Jesus's atonement accomplished what was necessary for the Fathers to leave Limbo and enter the Beatific Vision, there will be a similar event that accomplishes the same for the NT people stuck in Limbo at the end of time.

I admit, I don't know exactly how it will happen.
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Offline Angelus

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #257 on: December 13, 2025, 08:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 13, 2025, 08:41:58 PM
This is just BS and a denial of the necessity of baptism and of the Chruch.  It sounds like some new-age, Protestant fairy tale where all the “good” people that died outside the Chruch will get a pass and have the same reward as Catholics. 

If you want to argue that those in limbo eventually go to the New Earth, then that’s plausible.  But they would NOT enter the new heaven.  Nor would their original sin be remitted somehow.  That’s heresy.

For the 53rd time, you comparing Moses to an invincibly ignorant native is blasphemy.  Moses followed the Old Law; the native Indian followed the natural law, only.  Moses was circuмcised.  Moses believed in the redeemer.  The ONLY THING Moses lacked was baptism, which he received in Limbo.  The native Indian believed in no God, or one that was general.  He had no religion.  He worshipped God in no significant religious way.  The 2 are INCOMPARABLE. 

As I have shown you at least 3 times, there will be a New Heaven and New Earth that are merged into one. There will no longer be a split between those two places. That is what Apocalypse 21 says.

After the General Judgment, there will only be two places for souls: the NHNE and Hell. Why? Because there will only be two types of people (souls merged with bodies): the righteous and the reprobate.
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Offline WorldsAway

Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #258 on: December 13, 2025, 08:53:55 PM »
Quote from: Angelus on December 13, 2025, 08:43:49 PM
Again, everything will be made new. Just like Jesus's atonement accomplished what was necessary for the Fathers to leave Limbo and enter the Beatific Vision, there will be a similar event that accomplishes the same for the NT people stuck in Limbo at the end of time.

I admit, I don't know exactly how it will happen.
Why can you not just answer the question?

Either:

Those infants and any Invincibly Ignorant in Limbo will be allowed to enter NHNE with Original Sin on their souls

Or

Those infants and any Invincibly Ignorant in Limbo will have Original Sin remitted from their souls at Christ's Second Coming

Can you rule one of these scenarios out?

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Offline Angelus

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #259 on: December 13, 2025, 09:00:47 PM »
Quote from: WorldsAway on December 13, 2025, 08:53:55 PM
Why can you not just answer the question?

Either:

Those infants and any Invincibly Ignorant in Limbo will be allowed to enter NHNE with Original Sin on their souls

Or

Those infants and any Invincibly Ignorant in Limbo will have Original Sin remitted from their souls at Christ's Second Coming

Can you rule one of these scenarios out?

Sorry, I thought my answer was obvious. Your second option is what I believe will happen. 

I rule out the idea that Original Sin will be carried into the NHNE because everything is made new. The old stain of Original Sin will be gone just as the bifurcation of Heaven and Earth will be gone.

Original Sin included as its punishment exclusion from Paradise. When the new Paradise is restored that old stain will be no longer relevant. 
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