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Offline WorldsAway

Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #250 on: December 13, 2025, 06:18:06 PM »
Right, but as Original Sin is an impediment to the Beatific Vision, and as we know that the Old Testament Just now enjoy the Beatific Vision, it obviously follows that they were delivered from that state of sin by Our Lord's Passion. That is why they could only enter Heaven after It had occurred

So the synopsis is implying that the infants who die in original sin, and those invincibly ignorant, will have Original Sin remitted at the General Judgement?
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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #251 on: December 13, 2025, 07:51:24 PM »
Quote from: WorldsAway on December 13, 2025, 06:18:06 PM
Right, but as Original Sin is an impediment to the Beatific Vision, and as we know that the Old Testament Just now enjoy the Beatific Vision, it obviously follows that they were delivered from that state of sin by Our Lord's Passion. That is why they could only enter Heaven after It had occurred

So the synopsis is implying that the infants who die in original sin, and those invincibly ignorant, will have Original Sin remitted at the General Judgement?

Christ's sacrificial death on the Cross effected the full remission of Original Sin, thereby opening the gates of Heaven.

His soul, united to the Divinity, then descended to the Fathers in the Limbus Patrum to illuminate them with the light of glory and, following His Resurrection, led them bodily into the Beatific Vision.

From Gemini AI:

A similar thing will happen with the Invincibly Ignorant at the Second Coming.

The General Judgment and the Resurrection of the Dead will be the culmination of the final redemptive act that removes the last impediment for the Invincibly Ignorant.

The biblical theme—the breaking open of the graves at the Second Coming—is best captured by several New Testament passages that speak directly to the General Resurrection.

The most direct and powerful quote often cited regarding the breaking open of the graves and the calling forth of the dead is from the Gospel of John:

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"Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment."


— John 5:28–29

Other Key Passages on the General Resurrection:


1 Thessalonians 4:16-17: This passage focuses on the timing of the resurrection in relation to the Second Coming (the Parousia), particularly for those who have died "in Christ."

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"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord."

  • 1 Corinthians 15:52: This highlights the speed and finality of the transformation at the last trumpet.

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"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed."



The Theological Parallel

EventImpediment RemovedAgent of ReleaseReleased To
Christ's Descent (Limbus Patrum)Original Sin (Effected by the Cross)The Risen ChristBeatific Vision
Second Coming (II Limbo)The Spiritual and Physical SeparationThe Voice of ChristNew Heaven and New Earth


The Voice of Christ that breaks open the graves at the Second Coming is the final, definitive act that releases the II from their temporary Limbo state and integrates their resurrected bodies into the final, eternal Kingdom of the New Heaven and New Earth.

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #252 on: December 13, 2025, 08:21:04 PM »
So will the infants and those invincibly ignorant who die with Original Sin on their souls be able to enter NHNE with Original Sin, or will those with the guilt of Original Sin on their souls be remitted of it at Christ's Second Coming 
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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #253 on: December 13, 2025, 08:27:06 PM »
Quote from: WorldsAway on December 13, 2025, 08:21:04 PM
So will the infants and those invincibly ignorant who die with Original Sin on their souls be able to enter NHNE with Original Sin, or will those with the guilt of Original Sin on their souls be remitted of it at Christ's Second Coming

I am speculating of course. But I think that the souls tainted with Original Sin would be made "new" when the NHNE is created.
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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #254 on: December 13, 2025, 08:39:51 PM »
Quote from: Angelus on December 13, 2025, 08:27:06 PM
I am speculating of course. But I think that the souls tainted with Original Sin would be made "new" when the NHNE is created.
So infants who die with Original Sin and any Invincibly Ignorant who are in limbo will have Original Sin remitted from their souls?
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