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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2025, 07:51:47 PM »
This part, at least, is quite right. And it is shameful

Right ... but the part attacking sedevacantism is an absolute disaster, especially this hot mess here:
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The remote rule of faith is found in Scripture and Tradition. The proximate rule of faith is DOGMA which is divine revelation infallibly defined and constitutes the formal object of divine and Catholic faith. The pope is the material and instrumental cause of dogma but it is God who is the formal and final cause. Dogma is, as St. Pius X said, "A truth fallen from heaven." Dogma is formulated for all the faithful. It is the end of theological speculation. The very definition of a heretic is a Catholic who rejects a dogma. The proximate rule of faith is not the pope or his local ordinary for they are as much subject to dogma as everyone of the faithful.

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2025, 08:04:06 PM »
This part, at least, is quite right. And it is shameful

From a heretical Feeneyite perspective, agreeing with implicit faith and implicit denial of St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus is shameful !!!


Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2025, 08:17:27 PM »
Right ... but the part attacking sedevacantism is an absolute disaster, especially this hot mess here:
:facepalm:

There are plenty of replies to your comments on the thread below and on this same subject by Drew.
Maybe others will benefit from it.

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/is-father-ringrose-dumping-the-r-r-crowd/45/



Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2025, 08:25:49 PM »
Which part therein?

Those are all some serious charges, which one(s) are true though?
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1) Is a blind leader of the blind.
+Sanborn denies Church teaching on EENS, he holds the heresy that non-Catholics can be saved. He is blind and he teaches those who attend his sect this heresy, and they follow him


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2) Has established a new church.
See above. What +Sanborn professes and teaches is not of the Church. His group is his own, with its own doctrine that must be held to be a "member"


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3) Refuses sacraments to any Catholic that is not vetted as bending to his personal creed.

4) Is bizarre that he will refuse sacraments to any Catholic that actually believes the dogmas that...etc.
+Sanborn and his group refuse the sacraments to those who do not hold his opinions (some which are heretical). 

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5) His theology corrupts the very nature of the Church.
That is what heresy does. When you deny a Dogma, which is to be believed as a "truth fallen from heaven", you relegate the Church and Her infallible teachings to a mere human institution that you can decide to accept or reject at will. When you deny a Dogma of the Faith, your motive of faith is your own private judgement..not because the Church, who is the guardian of the deposit of faith, teaches it as Divinely revealed


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6) He has become his own Pope

+Sanborn teaches his opinions as infallible, and attempts to bind the consciences of others with them . I'll admit, "false pope" or "anti-pope" would be a bit more accurate here

Re: Possible strict-EENS chapel
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2025, 08:35:18 PM »
From a heretical Feeneyite perspective, agreeing with implicit faith and implicit denial of St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus is shameful !!!


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Whoever wills to be saved, before all things it is necessary that he holds the catholic faith. Unless a person keeps this faith whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish eternally. The catholic faith is this, that we worship one God in the Trinity, and the Trinity in unity, neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the holy Spirit is one, the glory equal, and the majesty co-eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the holy Spirit. The Father uncreated the Son uncreated and the holy Spirit uncreated. The Father infinite, the Son infinite and the holy Spirit infinite. The Father eternal, the Son eternal and the holy Spirit eternal. Yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal. As also they are not three uncreateds nor three infinites, but one uncreated and one infinite. Likewise the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty and the holy Spirit is almighty. Yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty. Likewise the Father is God, the Son is God and the holy Spirit is God. Yet they are not three gods, but one God. Likewise the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord and the holy Spirit is Lord. Yet they are not three lords, but one Lord. For just as we are compelled by the Christian truth to acknowledge each person by himself to be God and Lord, so we are forbidden by the catholic religion to say there are three gods or three lords. The Father is made by none, neither created nor begotten. The Son is from the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten. The holy Spirit is from the Father and the Son; not made nor created nor begotten, but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three fathers; one Son, not three sons; one holy Spirit, not three holy spirits. And in this Trinity nothing is before or after, nothing is greater or less; but the whole three persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. So that in all things, as has been said above, the unity in Trinity and the Trinity in unity is to be worshipped. Whoever, therefore, wishes to be saved, let him think thus of the Trinity.

It is also necessary for salvation to believe faithfully the incarnation of our lord Jesus Christ. The right faith, therefore, is that we believe and confess that our lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, is God and man. God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the ages; and man, of the substance of his mother, born in the world. Perfect God, perfect man, subsisting of a rational soul and human flesh. Equal to the Father according to his Godhead, less than the Father according to his humanity. Although he is God and man, he is not two, but one Christ. One, however, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by the taking of humanity into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as a reasoning soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ. He suffered for our salvation and descended into hell. On the third day he rose from the dead. He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father almighty. Thence he shall come to judge the living and the dead. At his coming all shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give an account of their own deeds. Those who have done good shall go into eternal life, but those who have done evil shall go into eternal fire.

This is the catholic faith. Unless a person believes it faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.