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After the addition of an irony, the wine drink, mary juanita & roll laugh emoticons need to be restored. How can there be a Catholic Forum where no wine is permitted????

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  In his Letter to the Duke of Norfolk, Newman dealt with the Church's necessity for salvation, not for its own sake, but only as a teaching that he considered as offering "the opportunity of a legitimate minimizing." [In Certain Difficulties Felt by Anglicans in Catholic Teaching (London: Longmans, Green, and Co., 1896), II, 334.] Despite the fact that he complained when his theological opponents designated him as a minimizer, he set out to show that the dogmas taught in the Vatican Council's constitution Pastor aeternus were subject to legitimate minimizing. [Cf. Fenton, "John Henry Newman and the Vatican Definition of Papal Infallibility," in AER, CXIII, 4 (Oct., 1945), 300-20.] He tried to support his contention by appealing to the example of the dogma that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Hence it was from this angle that he approached the teaching on the necessity of the Church for salvation. Fenton 

   Newman taught that the principle "out of the Church, and out of the faith, is no salvation" admits of exceptions. He believed that what Pope Pius IX had taught in his encyclical Quanto conficiamur moerore indicated the existence of such exceptions. [Newman, op. cit., 335 f.] In support of his contention, he quotes the following lines from the encyclical:

We and you know, that those who lie under invincible ignorance as regards our most holy religion, and who, diligently observing the natural law and its precepts, which are engraven by God on the hearts of all, and prepared to obey God, lead a good and upright life, are able, by the operation of the power of divine light and grace, to obtain eternal life. [Ibid.]

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