Myrna, under each of your posts is the following quote.

Galatians 1; 8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.

Can you give me a quote to support your belief?

Your credibility just vanished in a puff of childish. It does save further wasted time, so thanks for that.

 Had I credibility in your mind? ... I am flattered!   :cheers:

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http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/
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So great a missionary was St. Vincent Ferrer that he can only be compared to the 12 Apostles. His accomplishments were incredible and rare in the whole history of the Church; his life story contains one amazing story after another, many of these are docuмented in the book, St. Vincent Ferrer –The Angel of the Judgment, by Father Andrew Pradel, O.P.

When St. Vincent Ferrer was 46 years old, suffering from a grievous illness, Our Lord appeared to him, accompanied by St. Francis and St. Dominic.  Our Lord said to Vincent, among other things, "Arise, then, and go to preach against vice; for this have I specially chosen thee.  Exhort sinners to repentance, for My judgment is at hand."  Our Lord told St. Vincent that his preaching before the coming of Antichrist would be for mankind a merciful occasion of repentance and conversion.  During this vision St. Vincent was immediately cured.

Two years later, in 1398, he was given permission to begin his apostolate of preaching.  St. Vincent traveled all over western Europe preaching penance, attracting enormous crowds, and followed by thousands of disciples.  He converted St. Bernardine of Siena and Blessed Margaret of Savoy.  Vincent had the gift of languages; preaching in his Valencion idiom he was understood wherever he went;¹ and in conversation he spoke French, Italian, German or English as fluently as his native tongue.

There was a rich Jєω of Andalusia, named Abraham, who began to leave a church in anger while Vincent was preach-ing.  The Jєω did not like what he was hearing.  As some people at the door opposed his passing through, St. Vincent cried out: "Let him go! Come away all of you at once, and leave the passage free!"  The people did as he ordered, and at the instant the Jєω left, part of the porch structure fell on him and crushed him to death.  Then the saint rose from his chair and went to the body.  He knelt there in prayer.  Abraham came to life, and his first words were:  "The religion of the Jєωs is not the true faith.  The True Faith is that of the Christians."

The father of a certain child had given Vincent lodging while he was on a missionary journey. His wife, a virtuous woman, suffered from bad attacks of nerves, and at times was close to madness. Upon his return from hearing one of Vincent's sermons, the father came upon a terrible tragedy. His wife had gone mad, cut their small son's throat, then chopped up the boy's body and roasted a portion of it, which she then attempted to serve her husband.

When he realized what had happened, the man fled in horror and disgust to St. Vincent Ferrer. Vincent told him that-as in the case of the crushed Jєω -- the tragedy would be for the glory of God.  St. Vincent went with the father back to the home and prayed as he gathered the bloody pieces together.

He said to the father: "If you have faith, God, who created this little soul from nothing, can bring him back to life."

Vincent knelt and prayed.  He made the Sign of the Cross over the reassembled body.  The pieces became united together, the body came to life again, and Vincent handed over to the father a living child.  This event is depicted in a painting by Francesco del Cossa in the New Picture Gallery in the Vatican.  Bishop Ranzano claimed this as one of the miracles submitted in the canonization process for St. Vincent Ferrer.

One should note that none of these miracles were performed for mere sensationalism, which the saints despise.  They were worked for various good purposes, especially the conversion of sinners and the strengthening of faith.  As St. Vincent told the bereaved father, miracles are worked for the glory of God.  This was also stated by Christ at the grave of Lazarus, and to His Apostles.  The saints' powers are of course limited by God, to whom all power belongs.  Otherwise, with unrestricted powers, the saints could be "as gods."

We learn from St. Vincent Ferrer that one must never mock the gifts God has given to His saints.  As has happened in similar cases, on one occasion a boy pretended to be dead, while his friends snickered.  St. Vincent leaned over and shook him -- a corpse! Vincent said: "He pretended to be dead to amuse you, but evil has come upon him; he is dead!" A cross was erected to commemorate the event.²  Happenings like that can save many souls by instilling in them a healthy fear of the Lord.

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¹ This is the meaning of "speaking in tongues" as the Apostles did -- their native tongue is understood in many languages at the same time. His ability to speak foreign languages in private conversation is another gift of language.
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The saints despise sensationalism. 
Miracles are worked for the glory of God.
We must never mock the gifts God has given to His saints.
Miracles can save many souls by instilling in them a healthy fear of the Lord.
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² A cross was erected to commemorate the event, but later, liberals removed the cross because it was offensive to Jєωs. As liberals eradicate the memory of saints' miracles, so too they sensationalize them, as if they're not worked for the glory of God, and so trivialize due reverence for defined doctrine and thereby, they mock the gifts God has given to His saints, depriving many souls of a healthy fear of the Lord by which they would be saved. Unfortunately, this spirit of fear of offending non-Catholics, sensationalizing the memory of saints' miracles, mocking the gifts God has given to His saints, depriving many souls of a healthy fear of the Lord and trivializing the due reverence for dogma, is a by-product of sedevacantism.
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On the contrary, I look at the entire body of evidence objectively.  I've never condemned anyone for believing in BoD.  I've condemned Pelagianism, denial of EENS, modernist ecclesiology, and heretical denial of Trent's dogmatic teaching that the Sacraments are necessary for salvation.  I've taken note of the fact that many theologians believe in BoD, but it's clear from the evidence that there's no proof for this opinion and that it's just their personal opinion, an opinion with which I disagree.  I have no issues with someone believing in BoD provided that they do not simultaneously undermine EENS, promote heretical ecclesiology, advocate Pelagianism, and deny the necessity of the Sacraments (even mockingly deriding them in language identical to that of the Protestants).  So far only two BoDers on CI (Arvinger and Nishant) have met these criteria.

Oh, yes, I forgot Matto.  My apologies to him.  He also believes in a Catholic version of the BoD hypothesis.

Yeah, I found that statement surprising as well.

1. Is she Catholic?

Oh, yes, I forgot Matto.  My apologies to him.  He also believes in a Catholic version of the BoD hypothesis.


It seems rather commonplace for BoB/BoD to go hand in hand with sedevacantism. I don't know any of the latter who are not also adherents of the former. Your post seems to support that too:  as far as I could tell, Arvinger, Nishant and Matto are not sedes.
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1. Sede
2. Have asked members here and elsewhere to elaborate on this Catholic(?) BO(?).
 1. Response? none.


Frankly, esp. outside the comparatively tiny cat wrangle of CI, I find Sededefectists to hold to BoD, in myriad iterations and mutation.

What they rarely DON'T hold to is either Liguori or Aquinas in the matter, which makes them super-special, esp. when they, with the consistency of a madman, froth at the gob otherwise.

This is often accompanied by calling SV heresy, yet  when asked to JUSTify that with specs, the most you ever really get is bits of V1 with the word "primacy" oddly glossed over or, more likely, omitted entirely.

TL;DR/Crayon version
1. There is no pope this side of the dirt.
2. Not SACRAMENTALLY baptised = Hell
3. Not Catholic = Hell

So, another SV who REJECTS BoD/B.

I would ask again for this allegedly non-heretical version, but why bother yet again?

I believe it's when someone believes that it's the Sacrament that saves in voto as Ladislaus puts it. They say that you need the sacrament but you can receive the Sacrament by actually desiring it. It's still BOD though and not taught by the Church.

Thanks for trying man. Preesh.

So, where did the soul of those who died go before they were resurrected?