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Original catechism of Saint Pius X in Italian
« Reply #70 on: October 14, 2013, 07:56:03 AM »
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Now there is nothing to debate - try very hard to actually do what was asked - provide the complete formula for a BOD. Be sure and try not to leave anything out.


Quote from: St. Alphonsus
baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or implicit desire for true Baptism of water.

Baptism of blood is the shedding of one’s blood, i.e. death, suffered for the Faith or for some other Christian virtue.


The proposition all Catholics must assent to, under pain of mortal sin, is that there are indeed souls that have been saved by baptism of desire and blood.


I am okay with this proposition, however, is it also de fide (in your opinion) that these souls lack the character of sacramental Baptism?  And, must we believe that these souls lack the character of sacramental Bapitsm under pain of mortal sin?  If so, how many such souls are we required to believe that are in Paradise?  If I assert, if only as a theological opinion, that only at most a few dozen such souls are in Paradise, am I a heretic?  By the way, was it (or, is it) heretical to believe that the Emperor Trajan was raised from the dead five hundred years after his death by Saint Pope Gregory I so that he could receive Christian Baptism?  Is it heretical to believe that such could have occurred with others, also?  More here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan#Trajan.27s_legacy