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Offline Lover of Truth

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Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject BOBD
« on: April 30, 2015, 12:14:34 PM »
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    • Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood
     
    Each theological “category” has a corresponding theological censure attached to it which expresses the degree of error into which someone has fallen by denying a particular teaching.

    Below are the various categories theologians attributed to baptism of desire and baptism of blood, along with the corresponding censures and a note on the gravity of the sin committed.  See http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/BaptDes-Proofed.pdf regarding how all who deny BOB/D are in mortal sin.
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject BOBD
    « Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 08:55:44 PM »
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    • Boy!...........you sedes really are obsessive sentimentalists............
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    Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject BOBD
    « Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 06:23:48 AM »
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    Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood
     
    Each theological “category” has a corresponding theological censure attached to it which expresses the degree of error into which someone has fallen by denying a particular teaching.

    Below are the various categories theologians attributed to baptism of desire and baptism of blood, along with the corresponding censures and a note on the gravity of the sin committed.  See http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/BaptDes-Proofed.pdf regarding how all who deny BOB/D are in mortal sin.



    Oh my, that is the link that Fr. Cekada and I got into a debate over wherein his bad will and ad hominems changed my mind about him forever, with him starting out the debate by calling the thrice defined dogma's infallible pronouncements "tiresome".  

    He purposely adulterates the teaching of Tuas libenter, the letter issued by Bl. Pius IX, in his attempt to justify his position.

    Better to stick with the clear teaching of Trent than the adulterated teaching of Fr Cekada. But unless you use adulterated teachings yourself, you have nothing to support your position of salvation via NSAA, same o same o.



     

     
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    Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject BOBD
    « Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 08:03:25 AM »
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    • Yet another thread on the same subject by LoT.  You're incorrigible in practicing very poor forum etiquette, LoT.
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    Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject BOBD
    « Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 08:41:27 AM »
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    Boy!...........you sedes really are obsessive sentimentalists............


    A feeneyite calling someone a name.  Wake me up when I'm supposed to be surprised.  Or was that meant to be a scholarly refutation?
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 09:19:32 AM »
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    Boy!...........you sedes really are obsessive sentimentalists............


    A feeneyite calling someone a name.  Wake me up when I'm supposed to be surprised.  Or was that meant to be a scholarly refutation?


    Imbecile, what do you think that the term "Feeneyite" means?  Depart from me, cursed Cushingite.
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    Degree of Error and the Gravity of the Sin if You Reject BOBD
    « Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 01:26:18 PM »
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    Boy!...........you sedes really are obsessive sentimentalists............


    A feeneyite calling someone a name.  Wake me up when I'm supposed to be surprised.  Or was that meant to be a scholarly refutation?

    If I remember correctly, you blasphemed the holy Sacrament of Baptism by derogatorily calling it mere "water and words" so you should not talk about calling names.
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