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Offline Don Paolo

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« Reply #870 on: October 05, 2014, 11:58:55 AM »
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  • The popes and Doctors who professed and taught BOB/BOD also professed EENS and ONE BAPTISM -- it is not they who got it wrong, but you Feeneyite knuckleheads who fell into heresy who are the ones who just don't get it.

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    « Reply #871 on: October 05, 2014, 01:39:23 PM »
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    The popes and Doctors who professed and taught BOB/BOD also professed EENS and ONE BAPTISM -- it is not they who got it wrong, but you Feeneyite knuckleheads who fell into heresy who are the ones who just don't get it.


    Yes, THEY did; you don't, you Pelagian heretic you.


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    « Reply #872 on: October 05, 2014, 01:40:59 PM »
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    No Ladislaus, you obstinate ass, it is not childlike faith to understand EENS in a manner that is contrary to the unanimous agreement of the Fathers, who professed both EENS and BOB, and saw no contradiction between them; and contrary to the unanimous teaching of the medieval Doctors and popes, who saw no contradiction or opposition between BOB/BOD and EENS; and contrary to the Council Fathers of Trent who taught Baptism in voto; and the unanimous teaching of the post-Tridentine popes, Doctors and theologians who all agree on BOB/BOD and EENS, and none has ever held that there is any contradiction or opposition between them. Accepting EENS as it has been taught by the Church is not heresy; but accepting it as it is understood by Feeneyites is indeed heresy.

    And as far as the salvation of the matuto is concerned, I have already quoted the popes who taught on this question. What's so shameful about following the opinion of papal teaching in a matter that has not been defined, Mr. Hypocritical ass?
       
         You claim I am one of the "pernicious enemies of the faith" because I accept the teaching of the popes and Doctors of the Church who have not speculated or opined, but taught BOB, BOD and EENS. If BOB & BOD were really the doctrines of the enemies of the faith, then how can it be that the Magisterium of the Church has constantly approved them for so many centuries; and has never condemned them? Did the Holy Ghost miss these errors and forget to bring about their condemnation? How could the infallible and indefectible Church have allowed the rampant and universal proliferation of these "errors" of the "pernicious enemies of the Church" to infect the whole Church for so many centuries, even to the point that Catholics generally and universally have professed BOB & BOD for many centuries? That would amount to the defection and failure of the divinely instituted Magisterium. No Ladislaus, you insolent ass and obstinate heretic, it is not I and the popes and Doctors who are the "pernicious enemies of the faith"; but you Feeneyites who reject their teaching, preferring the errors of Feeney, who are the "pernicious enemies of the faith".




     :applause: :applause: :applause:  Thank you for the defense of the doctrines of baptism of Blood and desire!  Excellent.

    This is such a well put statement:

    If BOB & BOD were really the doctrines of the enemies of the faith, then how can it be that the Magisterium of the Church has constantly approved them for so many centuries; and has never condemned them? Did the Holy Ghost miss these errors and forget to bring about their condemnation? How could the infallible and indefectible Church have allowed the rampant and universal proliferation of these "errors" of the "pernicious enemies of the Church" to infect the whole Church for so many centuries,

    Why cant you Feenyites understand that the doctrines of BOB and BOD have been professed since the beginnings of the Church.  If they were erroneous,  there have been over 70 popes since then.  DONT YA THINK ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE ERRORS  AND RULLED THEM HERESY?


    I guess it was left to the great "hero"  Fr Feeney to finally discover the errors!    What nonsense!


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    « Reply #873 on: October 05, 2014, 03:54:54 PM »
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    If BOB & BOD were really the doctrines of the enemies of the faith, then how can it be that the Magisterium of the Church has constantly approved them for so many centuries; and has never condemned them?


    Again, a simple failure to make distinctions, something which they did not evidently teach at your modernist "seminary".  I am not attacking BoB / BoD per se (I think this is about the 500th time I've said this) as the doctrine of the Church's enemies; I am attacking the Pelagian form of these opinions.  You constantly hide behind the "Catholic" opinion on BoD as cover for your denial of EENS and for your Pelagian heresy.  We try to flush you out into the light but you keep slinking back into the shadows.


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    « Reply #874 on: October 05, 2014, 03:56:34 PM »
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    Thank you for the defense of the doctrines of baptism of Blood and desire!  Excellent.


     :roll-laugh1:

    This pseudo-priest has not made a single cogent argument in favor of BoD/BoB, much less his Pelagian heresy.


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    « Reply #875 on: October 05, 2014, 05:44:13 PM »
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  • Lunatic Ladislaus says: "This pseudo-priest has not made a single cogent argument in favor of BoD/BoB, much less his Pelagian heresy."

    Gratuitous ravings! What delusional codswallop! YOU ARE WALKING WITH THE FAIRIES, LUNATIC LADISLAUS! I am a Thomist, you fool. It is utterly assinine and theologically incoherent to ascribe Pelagianism to me. You are a patent IDIOT!

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    « Reply #876 on: October 05, 2014, 08:05:18 PM »
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  • Now you need to put your ad hominems in all caps, eh?  Appears as if I'm not the one losing my mind.

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    « Reply #877 on: October 05, 2014, 08:06:22 PM »
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    I am a Thomist


     :roll-laugh1:


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    « Reply #878 on: October 06, 2014, 12:02:46 AM »
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    No Ladislaus, you obstinate ass, it is not childlike faith to understand EENS in a manner that is contrary to the unanimous agreement of the Fathers, who professed both EENS and BOB, and saw no contradiction between them; and contrary to the unanimous teaching of the medieval Doctors and popes, who saw no contradiction or opposition between BOB/BOD and EENS; and contrary to the Council Fathers of Trent who taught Baptism in voto; and the unanimous teaching of the post-Tridentine popes, Doctors and theologians who all agree on BOB/BOD and EENS, and none has ever held that there is any contradiction or opposition between them. Accepting EENS as it has been taught by the Church is not heresy; but accepting it as it is understood by Feeneyites is indeed heresy.

    And as far as the salvation of the matuto is concerned, I have already quoted the popes who taught on this question. What's so shameful about following the opinion of papal teaching in a matter that has not been defined, Mr. Hypocritical ass?
       
         You claim I am one of the "pernicious enemies of the faith" because I accept the teaching of the popes and Doctors of the Church who have not speculated or opined, but taught BOB, BOD and EENS. If BOB & BOD were really the doctrines of the enemies of the faith, then how can it be that the Magisterium of the Church has constantly approved them for so many centuries; and has never condemned them? Did the Holy Ghost miss these errors and forget to bring about their condemnation? How could the infallible and indefectible Church have allowed the rampant and universal proliferation of these "errors" of the "pernicious enemies of the Church" to infect the whole Church for so many centuries, even to the point that Catholics generally and universally have professed BOB & BOD for many centuries? That would amount to the defection and failure of the divinely instituted Magisterium. No Ladislaus, you insolent ass and obstinate heretic, it is not I and the popes and Doctors who are the "pernicious enemies of the faith"; but you Feeneyites who reject their teaching, preferring the errors of Feeney, who are the "pernicious enemies of the faith".


     :applause:

    Well said!  If only they would hear the truth rather than closing their minds. This heresy of denying Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood is among the most dangerous to Catholics in our times.  

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    « Reply #879 on: October 06, 2014, 04:40:01 AM »
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    Well said!  If only they would hear the truth rather than closing their minds. This heresy of denying Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood is among the most dangerous to Catholics in our times.


    Yes, the defense of EENS and the necessity of the Sacraments for salvation is the "most dangerous heresy in our times", no, not the outright Cushingite Pelagian denial of EENS, not modernism, but the rejection of your Pelagian flavor of BoD and the opinion that BoD is an opinion rooted in speculative theology and has never been dogmatically defined.

    You've completely lost your minds; your diabolically-perverted evil wills, twisted by a refusal to accept EENS, have caused you to go insane, and you only cling to the Catholic faith by the skins of your teeth.

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    « Reply #880 on: October 06, 2014, 04:43:03 AM »
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  • And the scatalogical perversity continually being vomited forth from the mouth of pseudo-priest Kramer proves the evil will and the diabolical influence; frankly, I wonder if Kramer hasn't become diabolically possessed.


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    « Reply #881 on: October 06, 2014, 04:46:31 AM »
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     :applause:

    Well said!  If only they would hear the truth rather than closing their minds. This heresy of denying Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood is among the most dangerous to Catholics in our times.  



    You Cushingites preach a prot BOD and say that denying that heresy is dangerous to Catholics?

    The truth is that too much time in the Novus Ordo has infected the minds of you and Don and the rest of those who are / were willing partakers of the most pernicious of heresies for many years.

    Many have cleansed themselves of that disease, but you and Don and the rest of the sacrament despisers will never come to know or accept the truth as long as you keep feeding your infection with modernist lies.
     
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    « Reply #882 on: October 06, 2014, 04:48:29 AM »
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    And the scatalogical perversity continually being vomited forth from the mouth of pseudo-priest Kramer proves the evil will and the diabolical influence; frankly, I wonder if Kramer hasn't become diabolically possessed.


    I never would have thought that Fr. Kramer was that stupid - I know he wasn't that stupid 30 years ago - sad to see what happens when the faith is lost, very sad indeed.



    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #883 on: October 06, 2014, 04:50:09 AM »
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  • And it can only be diabolical perversity that would cause Emerentiana and Ambrose to praise the pseudo-priest Kramer (since both of these consider Novus Ordo ordination to be doubtful), despite the fact that Kramer completely disgraces the Priesthood with every post.  You partisans of evil would bring out the "clapping" smilie if Satan himself posted in favor of BoD.

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    « Reply #884 on: October 06, 2014, 05:57:33 AM »
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  • Schuckardites and Cushingites stick together and seek to bring in whoever they can snare.

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse