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Offline Lover of Truth

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2014, 10:58:12 AM »
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    Fish on Friday was great!  If only the SBC groupies just left Fr. Feeney alone when he went to Holy Cross, he may have had time keep working on making beautiful and edifying poetry.  

    The story of Fr. Feeney is a tragedy.


    Oh yes, the story of Father Feeney's treatment at the hands of the authorities and the Jews, is indeed a tragedy


    But his sneaky pride (I'm supposing this rather than ignorance but either or both could be the case) led to a tragic disobedience.

    Actually, it was his assertion of his due rights under canon law, which would have excused him from compliance. Stop mischaracterizing events.


    He as ordered to go to Rome.  He refused.  Any good priest would have jumped at the opportunity.  Do you really claim he had no idea what it was about?
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 07:53:52 AM »
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    Fish on Friday was great!  If only the SBC groupies just left Fr. Feeney alone when he went to Holy Cross, he may have had time keep working on making beautiful and edifying poetry.  

    The story of Fr. Feeney is a tragedy.


    Oh yes, the story of Father Feeney's treatment at the hands of the authorities and the Jews, is indeed a tragedy


    But his sneaky pride (I'm supposing this rather than ignorance but either or both could be the case) led to a tragic disobedience.

    Actually, it was his assertion of his due rights under canon law, which would have excused him from compliance. Stop mischaracterizing events.


    He was ordered to go to Rome.  He refused.  Any good priest would have jumped at the opportunity.  Do you really claim he had no idea what it was about?


    First, it is an established fact that the Holy office would not tell him what he was being accused of or why they had called him.

    Being that he had been under pressure from the chancery about his making converts of the wrong people and then for his public preaching against the Jews,
    he more than likely had an idea of what they wanted, which is why he was trying to establish on the record, what that was. It was not doctrine. Why do you think that Rome did not follow procedure and inform him in the normal manner?

    Father Feeney was a good priest. He was an exemplary priest. To imply that he was something else is detraction.

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    « Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 08:15:02 AM »
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    Fish on Friday was great!  If only the SBC groupies just left Fr. Feeney alone when he went to Holy Cross, he may have had time keep working on making beautiful and edifying poetry.  

    The story of Fr. Feeney is a tragedy.


    Oh yes, the story of Father Feeney's treatment at the hands of the authorities and the Jews, is indeed a tragedy


    But his sneaky pride (I'm supposing this rather than ignorance but either or both could be the case) led to a tragic disobedience.

    Actually, it was his assertion of his due rights under canon law, which would have excused him from compliance. Stop mischaracterizing events.


    He was ordered to go to Rome.  He refused.  Any good priest would have jumped at the opportunity.  Do you really claim he had no idea what it was about?


    First, it is an established fact that the Holy office would not tell him what he was being accused of or why they had called him.

    Being that he had been under pressure from the chancery about his making converts of the wrong people and then for his public preaching against the Jews,
    he more than likely had an idea of what they wanted, which is why he was trying to establish on the record, what that was. It was not doctrine. Why do you think that Rome did not follow procedure and inform him in the normal manner?

    Father Feeney was a good priest. He was an exemplary priest. To imply that he was something else is detraction.



    Father Feeney was blatantly disobedient and was rightly excommunicated by a valid Pope.  To repeatedly insist that Thomas Aquinas was wrong on BOD and that Feeney was right is detraction of the universal doctor of the Church.  It puts your authority above that of the infallible ordinary magisterium which is blasphemy.  
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 08:48:10 AM »
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    • A Jesuit dying of thirst in Sonora
    Met an Indian tribe who gave him their water.

    For months he'd sailed the seas from Lima
    To try to convert the tribe he called 'Pima'

    Explaining the 'Good News' to these natives
    They found his instructions were very probative

    They told him about their dead uncle Buck
    Without speaking his name, 'case it brought them bad luck.

    And having a great love for his sick daughter
    The chief requested he baptise her with water.

    The Jesuit, however, had drunk the last drop
    If he got legalistic now - he might get the chop.

    So thinking quickly, this hydrated prior
    With no blood or water, got her saved by desire.
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    « Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 09:23:57 AM »
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    A Jesuit dying of thirst in Sonora
    Met an Indian tribe who gave him their water.

    For months he'd sailed the seas from Lima
    To try to convert the tribe he called 'Pima'

    Explaining the 'Good News' to these natives
    They found his instructions were very probative

    They told him about their dead uncle Buck
    Without speaking his name, 'case it brought them bad luck.

    And having a great love for his sick daughter
    The chief requested he baptise her with water.

    The Jesuit, however, had drunk the last drop
    If he got legalistic now - he might get the chop.

    So thinking quickly, this hydrated prior
    With no blood or water, got her saved by desire.

    Google failed me. Where did you get this?
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    « Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 10:18:28 AM »
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    • From inside my head.

    I hear Google are working on it, but they haven't quite mastered Google Tele yet.
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    « Reply #21 on: August 21, 2014, 10:24:08 AM »
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    From inside my head.

    I hear Google are working on it, but they haven't quite mastered Google Tele yet.

    God bless you and yours, and may you all live a thousand years!
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    « Reply #22 on: August 21, 2014, 10:47:33 AM »
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    From inside my head.

    I hear Google are working on it, but they haven't quite mastered Google Tele yet.


    Looks like Matthew might have some competition.   :light-saber:
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    « Reply #23 on: August 21, 2014, 11:00:34 AM »
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    From inside my head.

    I hear Google are working on it, but they haven't quite mastered Google Tele yet.

    God bless you and yours, and may you all live a thousand years!


    That sounds like a Chinese curse.

    I'd be happier dying as soon as God wills it or, ideally, one day before the prior tax deadline.
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    « Reply #24 on: August 21, 2014, 11:05:04 AM »
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    That sounds like a Chinese curse.

    I knew you'd understand! God love ye!
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    « Reply #25 on: August 21, 2014, 02:41:03 PM »
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    • There was an old pastor called Feeney
    Who Beantown's Bish' Cushing judged “meanie”
    Because of the scandal
    Got book, bell and candle
    Tho' still thought the chance of salvation was teeny.
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    « Reply #26 on: August 22, 2014, 10:24:29 AM »
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    •   :confused1:

    What does this mean?
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    Got book, bell and candle

    Thanks. Not sure if it might be offensive!

     :furtive:
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    « Reply #27 on: August 22, 2014, 10:35:54 AM »
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    What does this mean?
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    Got book, bell and candle

    Thanks. Not sure if it might be offensive!

     :furtive:


    book, bell and candle is a reference to excommunication.  In the Middle Ages, there was a formal excommunication ceremony where the book (of Gospels = book of life) was closed, a bell tolled, and a candle extinguished.
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    « Reply #28 on: August 22, 2014, 11:17:31 AM »
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    • Apparantly there's no need to provide proof of any accusation against anyone as long as the accused's name is Fr. Leonard Feeney.
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    « Reply #29 on: August 22, 2014, 11:45:51 AM »
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    Apparantly there's no need to provide proof of any accusation against anyone as long as the accused's name is Fr. Leonard Feeney.


    Now you've caught on to it
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