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Offline tdrev123

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Question for Sede Feeneyites
« on: July 01, 2014, 10:44:50 PM »
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  • Where do Sedevacantists who believe in EENS (meaning rejecting BoD,BoB, Invincible Ignorance) go to Holy Mass?  Are there even any Sede priests who believe in EENS?

    Please don't make this thread into an argument guys...

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    Question for Sede Feeneyites
    « Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 10:38:22 AM »
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  • There's only one that I can think of, Bishop Neal Webster. Back when he was a priest he was associated with the late Bishop Vezelis. He gave an interview to the Dimond Brothers on the life of Archbishop Thuc some years ago, the three of them lived together in New York for a short time.
    If you look him up, he has a website that tells you a little on his background. I'm not sure when he started rejecting BOD and BOB.
    Besides Father Morrison's directory of masses, there's one specifically for sede's. One that directory Bishop Webster is on there. So at least for who ever that puts out that directory, they feel Bishop Webster is an acceptable option to go to mass, which is interesting.
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    Question for Sede Feeneyites
    « Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 11:27:38 AM »
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  • Most sedevacantists orders are very much against the "feeneyite" position. The only ones that hold a strict adherence to EENS are the ones associated with the Dimond Brothers. Most go to scattered independent Chapels or stay "home alone".

    The term "sede feeneyite" is an error given that a true follower of Fr. Feeney cannot ever be a sedevacantist. This is because of the heavy emphasis Fr. Feeney put on the submission to the Roman Pontiff for salvation.    

    Quote from: Fr. Feeney

    The gate of the Kingdom of Heaven in beatitude was opened for the first time by the entrance of Jesus. The keys to that gate were put in the hands of Christ’s Vicar on earth when He said to Peter, and his successors: “And I will give to thee the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.” No matter what we do in the way of justification, we can never enter salvation unless we enter it under the leadership of him who has the keys to that Kingdom.

    That flesh and blood Vicar of Jesus Christ is none other than the Pope, our Holy Father, a visible head for Christ’s visible Church. He is a man whom we can point to as the visible Vicar on earth of the visible Christ in eternity. He is as pointable-at now in time as Jesus once was when He walked the streets of Jerusalem, followed by Peter and His Apostles.

    It is a defined dogma of the Catholic Church that no one can be saved who is not subject to that flesh and blood Vicar of Jesus, the Roman Pontiff. It is one of the requirements for salvation. Justification is useless for purposes of the Beatific Vision unless submission to Christ’s Vicar has been added to it in essential complement.

    Pope Boniface VIII, in 1302, infallibly declared in his bull, Unam Sanctam: “We declare, say, define and pronounce, that it is wholly necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” A defined dogma can never be changed. It holds for every age; it applies to every generation, until the end of time.

    If you do not have a belief in, and submission to, a visible Holy Father and a visible Church, with clear distinguishable marks, you will never get into Heaven.

    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.