He points out that non-members cannot be "secure" about their salvation.  He did not say they could not be saved within the Church by desire.  The reason they cannot be secure is the lack the infallible doctrine, the disciplines that keep one on the right path and most especially the Sacraments which are the ordinary means of sanctifying grace entering into the world.  Members within the Church can be much more secure of their salvation because of these great advantages.  That is the obvious meaning combined with his other statements and the statements of all who spoke to the issue of BOD.  

Compared to non-members they are in a much better position in regards to security for the obvious reasons I pointed out.

A non-member is less likely to have a supernatural Faith, avoid sin, and if in a state of sanctifying grace it is more difficult for them to stay that way without the helps of the Sacraments.

A non-member must be in a state of sanctifying grace (and have a supernatural Faith) in order to be saved within the Church according to the teaching of the Church.

You can't be serious.  You would have put Pius XII out of job.  Incredible.

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He points out that non-members cannot be "secure" about their salvation.  He did not say they could not be saved within the Church by desire.  The reason they cannot be secure is the lack the infallible doctrine, the disciplines that keep one on the right path and most especially the Sacraments which are the ordinary means of sanctifying grace entering into the world.  Members within the Church can be much more secure of their salvation because of these great advantages.  That is the obvious meaning combined with his other statements and the statements of all who spoke to the issue of BOD.  

Pope Pius XII does not teach anywhere in this quote from Mystici Corporis that people can be inside the Church through unconscious desire. Quite contrary, he says that this desire can direct one to the Church, and that those people do not receive helps which are available only in the Catholic Church. This clearly means that people with merely "unconscious" (or "implicit" as you would probably call it) desire are outside the Church and thus cannot be saved unless that desire directs them to the Church and explicit faith in Christ. This is correct understanding of Pope Pius XII's quote, not your Pelagian interpretation.

You are interpreting in contradiction to the Church.  Pius XII mind is quite clear in the encyclical and in the letter he approved.  We are not going by my interpretation but by qualified theologians interpretations.  These based upon what had been clearly taught before by previous theologians based upon what the Fathers, Doctors, Saints and Popes had taught.  

What is gratuitously asserted is categorically denied.  I know I'm nothing which is why I present Church teaching rather than my own.  Aren't you the one that tries to use the fact that I paste other works to somehow undermine the Church's teaching I present?  

The accusation can certainly be reversed however as it is clear that you are quite full of yourself and despise those who eloquently present Church teaching in a way that contradicts your novelties.  

I know I'm nothing which is why I present Church teaching rather than my own.

No, you present your own fancies as if it were Church teaching.

The teachings I present are eloquent.  They are presented most frequently by me on this issue which is why I am treating by the feeneyites in their unCatholic uncharitable way with five-year-old name calling and false accusation mentality. I have noticed this uncharitable spirit with the feeneyites more than anyone else.  

No, the teachings you present are not eloquent.  There is no father, doctor, pope or saint who presents the issue as you do.

I haven't called you names.  Yet.  If I did, however, I'd probably use terms like "whited sepulcher, full of dead men's bones", or "you brood of vipers", or something similar.  

You probably get called names because of your strange, compulsive need to constantly beat a dead horse, rinsing and repeating the same drivel ad nauseam.  I have rarely met anyone, "Feeneyite" or otherwise, who is so obsessed with this topic.  What some may mistake as zeal is quite often a bothered conscience, desperate to justify itself.  

You can't bring yourself to condemn a saint outright so you condemn him and the Church through me because you hope it does not make you look so bad.  

It's not my job to condemn saints or anyone else.  Neither is it your job to interpret them for me.  I'm quite capable of reading their words without your input.

Do you claim to be authorized to speak for the Church?

Do you disagree with Liguori on the fact that BOD is a teaching of the Church?  If so why do you attack me.  If not, then what is your problem?

My "problem" is that my duty as a Catholic is to follow the Church.  Not any particular or group of saints, theologians, fathers or doctors.  The saints are reliable teachers only insofar as they echo what the Church herself teaches.  

Quote something from me that is against Church teaching.

Ummm... your original post?  I'm not going to repost it here, though, as  I'd have to go to confession afterwards.  And I do hate spam.

That article consists of your words written for Daily Catholic, with a smattering of quotes.  Your words, your interpretation.  I have no obligation to listen to you, neither are you authorized to "explain" anything as touches the faith publicly.

You are merely full of ipsi dixits.  Speak to the issue rather than attack the person.  

If the shoe fits, wear it.