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Offline OABrownson1876

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No BOB or BOD in Baltimore Catechism #1
« on: July 16, 2023, 05:56:31 PM »
I just wanted to set the record straight.  There was some question in an earlier thread about BOB or BOD appearing in the Baltimore Catechism # 1.  I have uploaded a few pics from the TAN reprint, and there is no mention. 















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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: No BOB or BOD in Baltimore Catechism #1
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2023, 08:49:12 PM »
Isn't this the really small one that's got a lot cut out of it?  Someone here did post some early versions of the Baltimore Catechism (1885 and subsequent Bishop Spalding abridgement) that made no reference to BoD/BoB.
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Offline moneil

Re: No BOB or BOD in Baltimore Catechism #1
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2023, 08:59:27 PM »
For everyone's information, the Baltimore Catechism is available in four editions, TAN Books offers all four.

Baltimore Catechism #1 has 33 lessons and is typically used for 2nd (First Communion) through 5th grade.
Baltimore Catechism #2 has 37 lessons and is typically used for 6th through 9th grade, including those preparing for Confirmation.
Baltimore Catechism #3 has 37 lessons and is intended for those who have been Confirmed and/or are in high school or older.
#4, An Explanation of the Baltimore Catechism, is often used as a "teacher's manual" for those teaching catechism, and as a reference work.

Baltimore Catechism #1 is a more basic, simplified version of the original catechism.  Both my copy of #3 (Confraternity Edition published by Benziger Brothers) and #2 (available on the CMRI website), in Question 321, teach Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire.

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: No BOB or BOD in Baltimore Catechism #1
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2023, 09:00:14 PM »
Quote from: moneil on July 16, 2023, 08:59:27 PM
For everyone's information, the Baltimore Catechism is available in four editions, TAN Books offers all four.

Baltimore Catechism #1 has 33 lessons and is typically used for 2nd (First Communion) through 5th grade.
Baltimore Catechism #2 has 37 lessons and is typically used for 6th through 9th grade, including those preparing for Confirmation.
Baltimore Catechism #3 has 37 lessons and is intended for those who have been Confirmed and/or are in high school or older.
#4, An Explanation of the Baltimore Catechism, is often used as a "teacher's manual" for those teaching catechism, and as a reference work.

Baltimore Catechism #1 is a more basic, simplified version of the original catechism.  Both my copy of #3 (Confraternity Edition published by Benziger Brothers) and #2 (available on the CMRI website), in Question 321, teach Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire.

These are based on the 1940s revision.
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Offline moneil

Re: No BOB or BOD in Baltimore Catechism #1
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2023, 09:15:16 PM »

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These are based on the 1940s revision.

I'm not certain how this is relevant, unless one can demonstrate that Questions 321 - 323 were added to the 1885 edition and not part of the original complete edition.


I have another catechism titled A Catechism of the Catholic Religion, translated from the German of Rev. Joesph Deharbe, S.J. and published by The Catholic Publication Society in 1878.  The Imprimatur is from John Cardinal McCloskey, Archbishop of New York.

Its Question Number 549 reads:

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Can nothing supply the place of Baptism by water?
When Baptism by water cannot be had it may be replaced by the Baptism of desire or by the Baptism of blood.




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