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The Dogma of Salvation in Official Pronouncements of the Church
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2014, 03:57:09 PM »
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As we go through the teachings of the Church pertaining to salvation it is important that we understand the vitalness of Catholics accepting infallible teachings in encyclicals and in other authoritative docuмents as will be made clear by Monsignor Joseph Clifford Fenton below. Some have an aversion to the fact that no one at all can be saved outside the Catholic Church. Others have an aversion to the fact that non-members can be saved within the Catholic Church. Neither understands the Dogma Outside the Church there is no Salvation as the Church Herself understands it.


.......and more.... :dancing:


Christ will welcome you with open arms to His Church if you should join her before you die.  Join the Catholic Church, this is not a matter of indifference.



And even more!.......it is endless...........it is a case of sedesadism....... :shocked:

The Dogma of Salvation in Official Pronouncements of the Church
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2014, 07:51:49 AM »
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A sheep is a docile and accepting creature. The same is true of good Catholics. When you see an authoritative docuмent that presents a teaching contrary to what you have always believed the initial Catholic response is to doubt your belief rather than to naturally conclude that the authoritative docuмent has erred.


The Dogma of Salvation in Official Pronouncements of the Church
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2014, 11:48:38 AM »
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   We will see that Saint Thomas Aquinas makes the same point I have been making, or I guess I'm making the same point he made, when I say that it is God Who cleanses the soul of Original Sin, not the water:

    Augustine says (Super Levit. lxxxiv) that "some have received the invisible sanctification without visible sacraments, and to their profit; but though it is possible to have the visible sanctification, consisting in a visible sacrament, without the invisible sanctification, it will be to no profit." Since, therefore, the sacrament of Baptism pertains to the visible sanctification, it seems that a man can obtain salvation without the sacrament of Baptism, by means of the invisible sanctification.

The sacrament or Baptism may be wanting to someone in two ways. First, both in reality and in desire; as is the case with those who neither are baptized, nor wished to be baptized: which clearly indicates contempt of the sacrament, in regard to those who have the use of the free-will. Consequently those to whom Baptism is wanting thus, cannot obtain salvation: since neither sacramentally nor mentally are they incorporated in Christ, through Whom alone can salvation be obtained.