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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: LoT's Crusade
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2017, 12:10:49 PM »
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  • He also smugly said my post were convincing others against me and proving him right and then starts crying about my posts.  His actions contradict his words, but I don't think we should be surprised.

    This is quite true.  People have PMed me that they saw the light about this subject (not all became Feeneyites, but most saw through the deeper errors of your position) ... in responses I made to your posts, because they were so incredibly lame and so easily refuted.


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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #31 on: August 03, 2017, 12:17:40 PM »
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  • In regards to magisterium and infallibility above, I have presented quotes from the Council of Trent, "A Commentary on Canon Law", Catholic Encyclopedia, and "A Catholic Dictionary" to support the teaching of that the soul can be cleaned from Original Sin apart from water. The first reference is obviously an infallible General Council, while the latter three are trusted Catholic references, each with their own imprimatur. For those who insist on stating these trusted Catholic sources are erroneous, we ask you to present something more trustworthy from the Church that trumps these references we have used. So far no one has responded to this request.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #32 on: August 03, 2017, 12:22:02 PM »
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  • From John Daly:

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    Mgr. Fenton’s credentials as a theologian are irreproachable. He was a Doctor of Sacred Theology and a Bachelor of Canon Law; he was professor of theology in several seminaries and at the Catholic University of America; he was editor of the American Ecclesiastical Review; and he was Secretary of the Catholic Theology Society of America, member of the Pontifical Roman Theological Academy, and Adviser to the Sacred Congregation for Seminaries and Universities. Nor could any reader of his excellent book The Catholic Church and Salvation in the Light of Recent Pronouncements by the Holy See deny that the various accolades he has thus received from the Church were well merited. Let us therefore allow him to guide us to a correct understanding of Pope Pius IX’s words.

    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #33 on: August 03, 2017, 12:24:23 PM »
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  • From John Daly:
    The Feeneyites beg to differ of course.  But why would a Catholic be interested in what those of the Feeneyite bent would have to say?  I ask this most sincerely in light of the overwhelming evidence against them.  The other traditional Catholic forums do not allow them to post on the issue because they are such a menace and this one was forced to relegate them to their own separate section so they would not bug everyone else.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #34 on: August 03, 2017, 12:26:33 PM »
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  • In regards to magisterium and infallibility above, I have presented quotes from the Council of Trent, "A Commentary on Canon Law", Catholic Encyclopedia, and "A Catholic Dictionary" to support the teaching of that the soul can be cleaned from Original Sin apart from water. The first reference is obviously an infallible General Council, while the latter three are trusted Catholic references, each with their own imprimatur. For those who insist on stating these trusted Catholic sources are erroneous, we ask you to present something more trustworthy from the Church that trumps these references we have used. So far no one has responded to this request.

    Well, at least this isn't spam.  Still off topic though.

    Why don't you actually start separate threads on individual subjects and stick to those subjects on those threads?  Would make the experience much more pleasant for everyone.


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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #35 on: August 03, 2017, 12:28:55 PM »
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  • Well, at least this isn't spam.  Still off topic though.

    Why don't you actually start separate threads on individual subjects and stick to those subjects on those threads?  Would make the experience much more pleasant for everyone.
    I'll try again until you start with the name-calling.  What is the point on this thread that you would like me to refute, admit I was wrong about, or claim I am not sure of the answer?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #36 on: August 03, 2017, 12:31:33 PM »
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  • I'll try again until you start with the name-calling.  What is the point on this thread that you would like me to refute, admit I was wrong about, or claim I am not sure of the answer?

    Whether you have anything to offer in response to this thread or not, that's a separate issue entirely from spamming unrelated material onto this thread or any other thread I start.

    Let's say I start a thread about a very specific subject, say, whether explicit belief in the Holy Trinity is necessary for salvation.  I would object if you started spamming in quotes about Baptism of Desire that had nothing to do with the subject under consideration.  Get it?

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #37 on: August 03, 2017, 12:33:12 PM »
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  • Whether you have anything to offer in response to this thread or not, that's a separate issue entirely from spamming unrelated material onto this thread or any other thread I start.

    Let's say I start a thread about a very specific subject, say, whether explicit belief in the Holy Trinity is necessary for salvation.  I would object if you started spamming in quotes about Baptism of Desire that had nothing to do with the subject under consideration.  Get it?
    Okay.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #38 on: August 03, 2017, 12:38:33 PM »
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  • Ladislaus, you have to be honest and admit that by starting a thread with his name in the title you are egging him on.  Or daring him.  

    That is not nice especially when you claim you don't want to read his notes, so then why are you reading them?
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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #39 on: August 03, 2017, 12:47:18 PM »
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  • Ladislaus, you have to be honest and admit that by starting a thread with his name in the title you are egging him on.  Or daring him.  

    That is not nice especially when you claim you don't want to read his notes, so then why are you reading them?

    I see that you too are logically challenged.  I never said he couldn't respond to this thread at all.  I asked him to stop spamming unrelated material onto it.  How difficult is this for you to understand?

    PS -- I don't read his spam.  I simply look at the title and skim past them.

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #40 on: August 03, 2017, 12:50:06 PM »
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  • I see that you too are logically challenged.  I never said he couldn't respond to this thread at all.  I asked him to stop spamming unrelated material onto it.  How difficult is this for you to understand?

    PS -- I don't read his spam.  I simply look at the title and skim past them.
    The Feeneyite trick.  If some one opposes you call them a name or accuse them of being stupid.  You also respond to my [spam] Church teaching quite frequently.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #41 on: August 03, 2017, 12:59:31 PM »
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  • I see that you too are logically challenged.  I never said he couldn't respond to this thread at all.  I asked him to stop spamming unrelated material onto it.  How difficult is this for you to understand?

    PS -- I don't read his spam.  I simply look at the title and skim past them.
    Big Deal, I see many threads here go off topic in fact almost all of them.  What else is new!
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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #42 on: August 03, 2017, 01:05:10 PM »
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  • Big Deal, I see many threads here go off topic in fact almost all of them.  What else is new!

    The difference here being that LoT does this maliciously.  Yes, threads drift off topic on their own sometimes.  That's annoying too.  But when it's being done on purpose, that's where it crosses the line of being contrary to forum etiquette.

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #43 on: August 03, 2017, 01:08:35 PM »
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  • The difference here being that LoT does this maliciously.  Yes, threads drift off topic on their own sometimes.  That's annoying too.  But when it's being done on purpose, that's where it crosses the line of being contrary to forum etiquette.
    Now Ladislaus knows the inner workings of my mind.  Feeneyites are amazing the reject Aquinas, Bellarmine and Liguori rather easily and make false accusations just as easily.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: LoT's Crusade
    « Reply #44 on: August 03, 2017, 01:41:04 PM »
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  • The difference here being that LoT does this maliciously.  Yes, threads drift off topic on their own sometimes.  That's annoying too.  But when it's being done on purpose, that's where it crosses the line of being contrary to forum etiquette.
    Well then, I really don't know why you started this thread, you know he will come and that is something that bothers you so.
    Getting back on topic: 
    I know you said, you wanted everyone to know that you had PMs and followers, but so did Martin Luther.  Not sure that is a reason to start a thread.  
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