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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Limbo?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2021, 07:29:41 PM »
Quote from: Cryptinox on May 11, 2021, 04:59:19 PM
Does Limbo actually exist? I heard that pretty much everyone in the Church for centuries held that unbaptized infants went to eternal hellfire and never questioned it.

Read all about it here:
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09256a.htm

It's a very interesting history.  St. Anselm challenged part of this teaching, then Abelard, and then finally St. Thomas removed even the "pain of loss" from the equation.  Nevertheless, this created some consternation for St. Robert Bellarmine because he considered the Augustinian Tradition to be strong enough so as to make it de fide.  Basically, the vast majority of Catholic theologians followed St. Thomas on this question and disagreed with St. Robert Bellarmine.

Of course, we Feeneyites use this as an example of the fact that just because theologians believe something nearly unanimously for a few hundred years, that doesn't make it de fide.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Limbo?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2021, 07:37:49 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on May 11, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
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Dude, learn your catechism from a traditional catechism book, not the internet.

A bit harsh, but I agree.

A teenager reading the Diminds will not likely end well.
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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Limbo?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2021, 07:49:56 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 11, 2021, 07:37:49 PM
A bit harsh, but I agree.

A teenager reading the Diminds will not likely end well.

Except that this issue has nothing to do with the Dimonds.  They do not reject the existence of limbo.

I think that this issue is analogous to the consternation caused by the Church's condemnation of Galileo.  It caused a lot of grief for St. Robert Bellarmine, but nearly all theologians ended up going with St. Thomas Aquinas.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Limbo?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2021, 07:53:18 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 11, 2021, 07:49:56 PM
Except that this issue has nothing to do with the Dimonds.  They do not reject the existence of limbo.

I’m saying a teenager has no business reading anything the Dimonds have to say.

You don’t learn the Faith by visiting the fringe......the far fringe....in fact so far they might not even be Catholic.

Pick up a catechism instead.
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Offline Cryptinox

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Re: Limbo?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2021, 08:20:42 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 11, 2021, 07:53:18 PM
I’m saying a teenager has no business reading anything the Dimonds have to say.

You don’t learn the Faith by visiting the fringe......the far fringe....in fact so far they might not even be Catholic.

Pick up a catechism instead.
It is not from the Dimonds. I found it from a response to them. What I am curious about is how the part from Florence about how "[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]those not living within the Catholic Church"  [/color][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]  [/color][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]will "[/color][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]depart into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels."  [/color][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Wouldn't that apply to unbaptized infants? You could maybe imagine limbo like the heat of a candle wick or something. [/color]
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