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Offline Ambrose

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Lest Anyone Think I am Exaggerating About These Heretics
« on: August 15, 2014, 04:21:44 PM »
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  • I can tell you first hand that I have gone to SSPX, CMRI and independent chapels for decades.  

    At every one of these chapels, proponents of this heresy were actively trying to convert Catholics with their Feeneyite and Dimond tracts and videos.  

    In many cases, they succeeded, and Catholics were deceived out of their Faith.

    SSPX, CMRI, and independent priests all have given sermons against these heretics.  The strongest sermon I ever heard was from my SSPX priest in the 1990's who devoted an entire sermon to warning Catholics about Fr. Feeney and the errors of the Saint Benedict Center.

    I have friends and others that I know that have been brought into the Dimond sect, and now no longer go to mass, and have broken communion with Catholics.  

    I have watched ordinary, kind, decent Catholics get infected with these sectarians doctrines, and they change from kind hearted souls to belligerent, aggressive, arrogant jerks.  

    A warning to everyone on this forum:  avoid these sectarians like the plague, do not read their tracts, do not watch their videos, or listen to their online "missionaries."  They are very aggressive and almost all of them are armed with tracts and literature.

    Not to long ago, one of their "missionaries" was caught proselytizing at my chapel, and this is no isolated incident, it goes on all over, ask any SSPX or CMRI priest if you don't believe me.

    They will confuse you, and they are good at twisting Catholic texts.

    The fact is that the Catholic Church teaches Baptism of Desire and Blood.  

    This teaching has been taught by the Church by:

    The Council of Trent,
    The Catechism of the Council of Trent (St. Pius V),
    Many Popes,
    The Holy Office,
    St. Thomas Aquinas,
    St. Bernard of Clairvoux,
    St. Bonaventure,
    St. Catherine of Sienna (in her dialogues with God),
    St. Robert Bellarmine,
    St. Alphonus Liguori,
    St. Pius X,
    Pope Pius XII,
    The Code of Canon Law,
    All Dogmatic Theologians in the last millennium,
    Dozens of approved Pre Vatican II Catechism,
    All approved Catholic books published in the last 1,000 years,
    And the list can go on.

    Do not be tricked by sophistries out of your Catholic Faith.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    « Reply #1 on: August 15, 2014, 04:58:21 PM »
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  • The Church doesn't need enemies when you have useful idiots like the Cushingites.

    And people wonder how Vatican II happened.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 15, 2014, 07:18:37 PM »
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  • Ambrose, I do not mean to speak out of turn, but, are you a woman?

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    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2014, 07:21:08 PM »
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  • TThanks Ambrose.  :applause: :applause:I pray that Matthew bans these Feenyite heretics. I PRAY locking one thread is the beginning!   If these Feenites took. Counsel from ANY.  Trad priest they would know the truth!

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    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 07:26:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: J.Paul
    Ambrose, I do not mean to speak out of turn, but, are you a woman?


    No, are you?
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


    Offline Cantarella

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    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2014, 07:29:38 PM »
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  • Ambrose and Lover of Truth may be the same troll.

    ...who needs his troubled head checked...

    Either way, this troll does not profess the Catholic Religion.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2014, 07:37:54 PM »
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  • Quote from: Emerentiana
    TThanks Ambrose.  :applause: :applause:I pray that Matthew bans these Feenyite heretics. I PRAY locking one thread is the beginning!   If these Feenites took. Counsel from ANY.  Trad priest they would know the truth!


    If you will look at that thread you will see tha it was LoT who in the second post, launched into his BoD spam crusade. It was He who hijacked the thread.

    So if anyone needs banning it is the BoD fanatics.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 15, 2014, 07:42:25 PM »
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    Ambrose, I do not mean to speak out of turn, but, are you a woman?


    Someone on another thread proposed that you were a woman. That is why I asked.  You said no. I take you at your word.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2014, 07:48:58 PM »
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  • Ambrose and LoT are just plain rabid about their contempt for EENS and the Tridentine dogma that the Sacraments are necessary for salvation.  They just can't stop foaming at the mouth about  it.  You'll notice that 90% of all BoD threads in recent memory have been started by the BoDers.  If you don't want any anti-BoD posts, STOP STARTING BOD THREADS, numskulls.


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    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2014, 07:50:00 PM »
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  • I want to hear it straight out of your mouth, Ambrose.

    Given my views, do you consider me to be a Catholic?

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    « Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 07:51:10 PM »
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  • If anyone has a sincere heart and a worthy soul disposition, he can easily realize that the BOD promoters of CI are exactly the same people who are obsessed with teaching that there are possible human salvation without Christ, the Church, the sacraments, and even the Catholic Faith, necessary for all justification.

    They want to completely annihilate the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation. Without fail. That alone would be a sign for the loyal militant Catholic to realize this unhealthy obsession with can only come from the Deceiver of Men, the Father of Lies, the Old Serpent.  

    Ambrose and those alike have engaged in a crusade not to defend Our Holy Mother Church from Her enemies but to defend the heresy of indifferentism in which the Catholic religion is just one religious denomination among others in the pluralistic society we live in.  

    In doing so, these modernists succuмb to the old temptation of the idolaters who were happy to offer Christ a niche in the pantheon among the other Roman gods.

    The partisans of error of CI, while pretending to be "traditionalists", actually align themselves with the liberal progressive enemies of the Church.

    Quote from: Karl Rahner
    This optimism concerning salvation [of non-Catholics] appears to me one of the most noteworthy results of the Second Vatican Council. For when we consider the officially received theology concerning all these questions, which was more or less traditional right down to the Second Vatican Council, we can only wonder how few controversies arose during the Council with regard to these assertions of optimism concerning salvation, and wonder too at how little opposition the conservative wing of the Council brought to bear on this point, how all this took place without any setting of the stage or any great stir even though this doctrine marked a far more decisive phase in the development of the Church’s conscious awareness of her faith than, for instance, the doctrine of collegiality in the Church, the relationship between Scripture and tradition, the acceptance of the new exegesis, etc.”

     
    They fail to comprehend that Modernism triumphed at Vatican II because the stage had already been set by burying Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, the only dogma the liberals (and the world) cannot live with. No wonder why the traditionalist conservatives in Vatican II were virtually powerless to stop the progressive revolution when some of them themselves have succuмbed to the Cushing error.

    In order to accomplish their goals, the liberals had to destroy EENS, the dogma of the exclusivity of the Catholic Church for human salvation. That done, they were free to continue their ruthless agenda. The conservatives at Vatican II were so powerless because they were all weakened to some degree by the error of the liberals: That is, that in the bottom line, the Church is not necessary for salvation.

    Which is exactly what trolls like Ambrose keep doing over and over.

    From a simple error attributed to them at first, it is evident now that their denial and promotion of heresy is coming from a well planned, completely bizarre, attack upon the pristine Faith.

    St Michael, pray for us!
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 15, 2014, 07:59:02 PM »
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    I want to hear it straight out of your mouth, Ambrose.

    Given my views, do you consider me to be a Catholic?


    You have basically stated that we are manifest heretics and are therefore outside the Church?  Is it not true that you do not consider us Catholics?

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    « Reply #12 on: August 15, 2014, 08:00:56 PM »
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  • The doctrine of BOB and BOD has been held by the Church since antiquity.  The traditional priests of today hold these doctrines as their predecessors have.   They are not modern doctrines.   Pretty simple!

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    « Reply #13 on: August 15, 2014, 08:04:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Emerentiana
    The doctrine of BOB and BOD has been held by the Church since antiquity.  The traditional priests of today hold these doctrines as their predecessors have.   They are not modern doctrines.   Pretty simple!


    Nobody is talking about Baptism of Desire and Blood. BOD/BOB are quite irrelevant to EENS and never were an issue before Suprema Haec. The Americanists made it one.

    Emerentiana has not been paying attention

    or it is just another case of willful ignorance. Most likely the second.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #14 on: August 15, 2014, 08:05:40 PM »
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  • Rather than an occasion for sin, it may actually be an Act of Penance to read and reply to Ambrose and the other demoniac trolls in here.

    One just need to be in CI to unmask the full blown demon of Vatican II in the personification of Ambrose and those alike.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.