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Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
« Reply #255 on: September 12, 2017, 02:28:43 PM »
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    • Lover of Heresy: you called the teaching of Fr. Fahey and Fr. Bernard Welp (of the CMRI), that Jєωs who reject Jesus Christ can be in the state of grace, “excellent”.  Since you’ve seen the Church’s dogmatic teaching on that matter, your statement in that regard proves that you are demonic.  It is not a pre-Vatican II Catholic position to hold that Jєωs can be saved or in the state of grace.  It is, in fact, a blatant heresy, which you obstinately hold.  Thus, you are not remotely Christian.  You are a non-Christian, like the leader of a mosque or a rabbi is a non-Christian.  In fact, if you spent nearly as much time trying to spread the Catholic faith as you do denying Catholic teaching and spreading error, then you might begin to get the grace to see that you are not even Catholic and that you are definitely on the road to Hell.

    Also, as part of your false claim to uphold Catholic teaching, you frequently mention that one needs ‘supernatural faith’, but you don’t mention the dogma that one must have ‘Catholic faith’.  That’s because if you insisted that one must have Catholic faith to be justified and saved, your position that Jєωs, Muslims, etc. can have ‘Catholic faith’, while not believing in Jesus and even rejecting Him, becomes even more obviously absurd and heretical.  
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #256 on: September 12, 2017, 02:30:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Catholictrue on September 12, 2017, 02:28:43 PM
    Lover of Heresy: you called the teaching of Fr. Fahey and Fr. Bernard Welp (of the CMRI), that Jєωs who reject Jesus Christ can be in the state of grace, “excellent”.  Since you’ve seen the Church’s dogmatic teaching on that matter, your statement in that regard proves that you are demonic.  It is not a pre-Vatican II Catholic position to hold that Jєωs can be saved or in the state of grace.  It is, in fact, a blatant heresy, which you obstinately hold.  Thus, you are not remotely Christian.  You are a non-Christian, like the leader of a mosque or a rabbi is a non-Christian.  In fact, if you spent nearly as much time trying to spread the Catholic faith as you do denying Catholic teaching and spreading error, then you might begin to get the grace to see that you are not even Catholic and that you are definitely on the road to Hell.

    Also, as part of your false claim to uphold Catholic teaching, you frequently mention that one needs ‘supernatural faith’, but you don’t mention the dogma that one must have ‘Catholic faith’.  That’s because if you insisted that one must have Catholic faith to be justified and saved, your position that Jєωs, Muslims, etc. can have ‘Catholic faith’, while not believing in Jesus and even rejecting Him, becomes even more obviously absurd and heretical.  
    Name caller.  I'm sure the rest of the post was more yuck.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #257 on: September 12, 2017, 02:35:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Lover of Truth on September 12, 2017, 02:30:15 PM
    Name caller.  I'm sure the rest of the post was more yuck.
    Judgement, Rash
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #258 on: September 12, 2017, 02:36:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on September 12, 2017, 02:35:02 PM
    Judgement, Rash
    More yuck.  Nothing to contribute.  Double yuck.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #259 on: September 12, 2017, 02:37:20 PM »
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    • Lover of Heresy: You believe that Jєωs who reject Jesus Christ can be in the state of grace.  You're not a Catholic.  That's a fact.  

    Also, the Church dogmatically teaches that all the faithful, the martyrs, etc. who get to Heaven from the New Covenant period have received sacred baptism, the same baptism received by children.  That's Church teaching, unlike the non-magisterial errors you consistently promote.  See the video below, and the section on Pope Benedict XII's solemn definition.  




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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #260 on: September 12, 2017, 02:37:32 PM »
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #261 on: September 12, 2017, 02:38:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Catholictrue on September 12, 2017, 02:37:20 PM
    Lover of Heresy: You believe Jєωs who reject Jesus Christ can be in the state of grace.  You're not a Catholic.  That's a fact.  

    Also, the Church dogmatically teaches that all infants and martyrs who get to Heaven from the New Covenant period have received sacred baptism, the same baptism received by infants.  That's Church teaching, unlike the non-magisterial errors you consistently promote.  See the video below, and the section on Pope Benedict XII's solemn definition.  


    Yuck.  Name caller.  Double yuck.   :barf:
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #262 on: September 12, 2017, 07:44:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Lover of Truth on September 12, 2017, 02:36:47 PM
    More yuck.  Nothing to contribute.  Double yuck.
    Yuck, yourself, Calumniator.

    You are weak.  Your arguments are weak.  Manifold and Multiple though they be.  

    You are hiding behind error and falsehood.

    Weak.  Silly.  So sad.  You are embarrassing yourself.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #263 on: September 12, 2017, 07:56:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Lover of Truth on September 12, 2017, 10:11:05 AM
    Saint Emerentiana is a Saint who was not baptized with water.  She lived after the promulgation of the Gospel.  
    How do you know she wasn't?  God knew she was.  His providence saw to it.  That is DE FIDE, as she has been held as a saint through the ages.

    Just because He didn't tell you personally that she was baptized, or there is no PHOTOGRAPH of it so to speak, is no excuse for you to say she got to heaven unbaptized.  

    Liberal.

    Martyrologies are nice - but THEY ARE NOT THE CHURCH.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #264 on: September 12, 2017, 07:59:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Lover of Truth on September 12, 2017, 10:22:45 AM
    Dear Yuck.  Quite pretending you know anything.
    You are such a child.

    You argue like a child.

    Weak. Losing.  Getting weaker.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #265 on: September 12, 2017, 08:21:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bellator Dei on September 12, 2017, 10:59:35 AM
    These types of posts, while amusing sometimes, do nothing to further the conversation.  I'm not saying that they don't have their place every once in a while, but multiple posts like this only clog up the thread.  

    Let's try and keep LoT on topic and engaged in the discussion.  
    You don't know yet there is no orderly fashion, or logic, with LoT.  He started in with the yuck thing - and it can receive an answer as well as anything else he says.

    Try and go somewhere else for order on this subject.  He will show up there.  

    When all he can say is yuck, you know he is running out of answers, and avoiding truth. 

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #266 on: September 13, 2017, 08:17:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: tornpage on September 12, 2017, 02:57:49 PM
    Yeah, and I asked him about that . . . crickets.
    I ignore Catholic Culture and may have skipped over you because I am used to nastiness from feeneyites.  Please feel free to ask a legitimate question if you have one.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #267 on: September 13, 2017, 08:22:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on September 13, 2017, 08:20:43 AM
    He will answer it if he feels it's legitimate. Don't hold your breath.
    Nasty.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #268 on: September 13, 2017, 08:25:24 AM »
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #269 on: September 13, 2017, 08:26:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on September 13, 2017, 08:24:18 AM
    HAHA
    Back off man, nobody wins a slap-fight and you don't know what's in the purse.
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