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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
« Reply #75 on: August 30, 2017, 09:45:02 AM »
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  • St. Cyprian, Church Father (3rd Century): ...

    LoT the spambot.

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    Offline Lover of Truth

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #76 on: August 30, 2017, 09:46:09 AM »
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  • Tertullian, Church Father (3rd Century): On Baptism, Chapter XVI, Of the Second Baptism - With Blood: "We have indeed, likewise, a second font, (itself withal one with the former,) of blood, to wit; concerning which the Lord said, "I have to be baptized with a baptism,"when He had been baptized already. For He had come "by means of water and blood,"just as John has written; that He might be baptized by the water, glorified by the blood; to make us, in like manner, called by water, chosen by blood. These two baptisms He sent out from the wound in His pierced side, in order that they who believed in His blood might be bathed with the water; they who had been bathed in the water might likewise drink the blood. This is the baptism which both stands in lieu of the fontal bathing when that has not been received, and restores it when lost."

    Scorpiace: Antidote for the Scorpion's Sting, Ch VI: "He therefore appointed as second supplies of comfort, and the last means of succour, the fight of martyrdom and the baptism--thereafter free from danger--of blood. And concerning the happiness of the man who has partaken of these, David says: "Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." For, strictly speaking, there cannot any longer be reckoned ought against the martyrs, by whom in the baptism (of blood) life itself is laid down. Thus, "love covers the multitude of sins;" and loving God, to wit, with all its strength (by which in the endurance of martyrdom it maintains the fight), with all its life (which it lays down for God), it makes of man a martyr."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #77 on: August 30, 2017, 10:50:46 AM »
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  • You've spammed the Tertullian quote several times now, LoT.  Running out of material and beginning to recycle?  Jackass.

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #78 on: August 30, 2017, 10:55:02 AM »
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  • You've spammed the Tertullian quote several times now, LoT.  Running out of material and beginning to recycle?  Jackass.
    The devil keeps poking him with his pitchfork to keep the heretical spambot, spambotting.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #79 on: August 30, 2017, 11:10:34 AM »
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  • St. Hippolytus of Rome (3rd century): Canons of Hypolytus, Can. XIX: Concerning Catechumens: "Catechumens, who by the unbelievers are arrested and killed by martyrdom, before they received baptism, are to be buried with the other martyrs, for they are baptized in their own blood." 
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #80 on: August 30, 2017, 03:25:51 PM »
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  • Oh - there it is - I hear it!  The footsteps of calumniating LoT running away again....

    Monsignor Cassano has you.  You just WISH Fr. Feeney was wrong, LoT.

    Thank God that He raised up Fr. Feeney as a voice of sanity against the modernist attacks and mistaken theology regarding the necessity of baptism of water.  YOU DO NOT GET THE INDELLIBLE MARK OF BAPTISM IN ANY OTHER WAY.

      
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #81 on: August 31, 2017, 08:24:24 PM »
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  • Thank God, indeed, for raising up Father Feeney as a great defender of the faith.

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #82 on: September 06, 2017, 12:23:58 PM »
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  • Constitutions of the Holy Apostles. Book V, Sec I, Concerning the Martyrs, para 6: (3rd-4th Century)(A compilation of writings from the Apostles and their immediate successors) "But let him who is vouchsafed the honour of martyrdom rejoice with joy in the Lord, as obtaining thereby so great a crown, and departing out of this life by his confession. Nay, though he be trot a catechumen, let him depart without trouble; for his suffering for Christ will be to him a more genuine baptism, because he does really die with Christ, but the rest only in a figure."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #83 on: September 06, 2017, 12:59:04 PM »
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    Quote from: Merry on August 29, 2017, 07:46:52 PM
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    Pardon me.  But I humbly interject here to ask, when is "Lover of Truth" going to address the issue of his calumny against Monsignor Francis Cassano?

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    Answer:  Never.  LoT is the most arrogant son of a female dog that I have ever encountered.  He will NEVER EVER admit that he's made a mistake.  All he would have to say is, "I shot from the hip with this statement and retract it.  I apologize."  Admission of error or mistake or even sin ... are completely beyond the capabilities of this incredibly arrogant man-child.  In fact, he perseveres in heresy simply because he refuse to make a couple small adjustments in how he defines and promotes Baptism of Desire.  That's all it would take to climb out of his heresies.  He wouldn't have to reject Baptism of Desire.  But he refuses to do this because it would be an admission of fault on his side.
    Sociopath --  A person who lacks empathy. All sociopaths are antisocial; they ignore the rules and laws of society so they can live by their own norms. Cold, callus, and calculating, they stop at nothing to get what they want, and they are impervious to consequences and punishment. They all have the same clinical diagnosis: antisocial personality disorder. No sociopath particularly likes people. They see them as mere objects to be toyed with, used, and then dismissed or disposed of. Some sociopaths happen to have more skill than others, and thus the ability to do more damage.
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    A sociopath can sometimes be quick to anger, hot-headed. He can quickly become violent, and because he's a sociopath, he doesn't hesitate to injure or kill. People mean nothing, punishment means nothing, his own wants and needs mean everything. (And don't be concerned about sociopath treatment as the sociopath can't be cured.)
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    A low-functioning sociopath will try to charm because doing so helps him manipulate others. He can cause physical, emotional, and financial damage to his victims. Unlike the high-functioning sociopath, he lacks long-term planning skills, patience, and drive.
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    All sociopaths are dangerous whether labeled high-functioning, low-functioning or narcissistic sociopaths. A high-functioning sociopath can dream bigger and manipulate better than other sociopaths. They can cause a great deal of damage.
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    Sociopaths are self-serving and manipulative. Sometimes just listening to a sociopathic person is frightening, as evidenced by the gut reactions of professionals mentioned above. The sociopathic person can describe horrific behaviors with not a trace of remorse. They do what benefits or amuses them in the moment, and they take no responsibility for their actions.
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #84 on: September 06, 2017, 01:38:16 PM »
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  •  St. John Chrystostome, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century)Panegyric on St. Lucianus, "Do not be surprised that I should equate martyrdom with baptism; for here too the spirit blows with much fruitfulness, and a marvellous and astonishing remission of sins and cleansing of the soul is effected; and just as those who are baptized by water, so, too, those who suffer martyrdom are cleansed with their own blood."

    Homilies on the Acts of the Apostles, Homily I: "But why does Christ say, "Ye shall be baptized," when in fact there was no water in the upper room? Because the more essential part of Baptism is the Spirit, through Whom indeed the water has its operation; in the same manner our Lord also is said to be anointed, not that He had ever been anointed with oil, but because He had received the Spirit. Besides, we do in fact find them receiving a baptism with water [and a baptism with the Spirit], and these at different moments. In our case both take place under one act, but then they were divided."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #85 on: September 06, 2017, 01:59:39 PM »
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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #86 on: September 06, 2017, 02:12:21 PM »
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  • I think we've all realized that LOT is incapable of explaining what he believes because he doesn't fully understand himself.  He reads quote after quote after quote from various theologians - some orthodox, some modern - and, adding to his blind hatred of feeneyism, his mind is muddled.  This is why he posts quotes to answer our questions.

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #87 on: September 06, 2017, 02:13:44 PM »
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  • St. Basil, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century)Treatise De Spiritu Sancto, Chapter XV: "And ere now there have been some who in their championship of true religion have undergone the death for Christ's sake, not in mere similitude, but in actual fact, and so have needed none of the outward signs of water for their salvation, because they were baptized in their own blood. Thus I write not to disparage the baptism by water, but to overthrow the arguments of those who exalt themselves against the Spirit; who confound things that are distinct from one another, and compare those which admit of no comparison."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #88 on: September 06, 2017, 02:30:57 PM »
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  • I think we've all realized that LOT is incapable of explaining what he believes because he doesn't fully understand himself. 

    Agreed.  That's why he can't engage in any substantive discussion.  He has adopted his position for purely emotional reasons, and not theological ones.

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    Re: Ladislaus the Calumniating Detractor
    « Reply #89 on: September 06, 2017, 02:35:55 PM »
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  • Eusebius of Caesarea, Church Father (4th Century)The Church History of Eusebius, Book VI, Chapter IV: "And of women, Herais died while yet a catechumen, receiving baptism by fire, as Origen himself somewhere says."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church