CathInfo.com

Quote from: Caraffa

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Matatics, who at his seminars used to distribute literature from the Saint Benedict Center, makes a tiny distinction between that group's position and his own and uses that distinction to claim that he is not really a Feeneyite. (If not, why distribute the most hardline Feeneyite literature?)

Unlike the Saint Benedict Center, he is open to the possibility that a catechumen who desires baptism but who dies before being baptized might be saved through what is commonly called "baptism of desire." But such a catechumen's salvation is not sure, says Matatics. It might be that he is not saved after all.

I like Matatics.  Thanks for pointing him out to me.

I used to like Matatics, he was one of the few apologists who would not try to weasel his way out of certain "hardline" or "over the top" church teachings that Protestants like to bring up. However he is now a sedevacantist home-aloner who even considers the SSPX, CMRI, SSPV to be "counterfeit traditional Catholics" (his own words). If any of his children keep the faith, it will be a miracle.

Well, I am not a sede, not yet at least.

Excuse me, then what is the point of being sedevacantist?

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: Caraffa

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Matatics, who at his seminars used to distribute literature from the Saint Benedict Center, makes a tiny distinction between that group's position and his own and uses that distinction to claim that he is not really a Feeneyite. (If not, why distribute the most hardline Feeneyite literature?)

Unlike the Saint Benedict Center, he is open to the possibility that a catechumen who desires baptism but who dies before being baptized might be saved through what is commonly called "baptism of desire." But such a catechumen's salvation is not sure, says Matatics. It might be that he is not saved after all.

I like Matatics.  Thanks for pointing him out to me.

I used to like Matatics, he was one of the few apologists who would not try to weasel his way out of certain "hardline" or "over the top" church teachings that Protestants like to bring up. However he is now a sedevacantist home-aloner who even considers the SSPX, CMRI, SSPV to be "counterfeit traditional Catholics" (his own words). If any of his children keep the faith, it will be a miracle.

so, he is back to virtual Protestantism eh.....again, proves my point over yrs that poor cathecism leads t opoor converts.....in lieu of the crop we got in the lat 40 yrs, none to great (AKin,Hahn,Ray..)

Belloc, good point. One thing that I've noticed about these "superstar" converts that EWTN likes to push is that many of them come from broad-church "Jesus and me is our only doctrine" evangelism. It might explain the crop we're getting, i.e. the Protestantism is great, but Catholicism is better Scott Hahn/Mark Shea types. Outside of Matatics, none of them ever said that they joined Christ's Church because of salvation. Overall, I have more respect for the converts of the past like Orestes Brownson and G. K. Chesterton.