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Quote from: stevusmagnus

Matatics, who at his seminars used to distribute literature from the Saint Benedict Center, makes a tiny distinction between that group's position and his own and uses that distinction to claim that he is not really a Feeneyite. (If not, why distribute the most hardline Feeneyite literature?)

Unlike the Saint Benedict Center, he is open to the possibility that a catechumen who desires baptism but who dies before being baptized might be saved through what is commonly called "baptism of desire." But such a catechumen's salvation is not sure, says Matatics. It might be that he is not saved after all.

I like Matatics.  Thanks for pointing him out to me.

I am no fan of Feeney, but Karl's article is dishonest, trying to link the articles to some vast anti-Jew conspiracy......

For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own coutrymen, even as they have from the Jews, Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men; Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.

Serving the Lord with all humility, and with tears, and temptations which befell me by the cօռspιʀαcιҽs of the Jews;

The Jews therefore said: Will he kill himself, because he said: Whither I go, you cannot come? And he said to them: You are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world.  Therefore I said to you, that you shall die in your sins. For if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sin.  They said therefore to him: Who art thou? Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you.

Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. The governor said to them: Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying: Let him be crucified. And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it. And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.

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I am no fan of Feeney, but Karl's article is dishonest, trying to link the articles to some vast anti-Jew conspiracy......

Uh OH!  St. Paul was in on it!

Quote from: St. Paul

For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own coutrymen, even as they have from the Jews, Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men; Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.

And he even goes so far as to have the audacity to say that THEY are the ones with the cօռspιʀαcιҽs!

Quote from: St. Paul

Serving the Lord with all humility, and with tears, and temptations which befell me by the cօռspιʀαcιҽs of the Jews;

JESUS CHRIST THE LORD WAS IN ON IT!!!

Quote from: St. John 8:22-25

The Jews therefore said: Will he kill himself, because he said: Whither I go, you cannot come? And he said to them: You are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world.  Therefore I said to you, that you shall die in your sins. For if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sin.  They said therefore to him: Who art thou? Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you.

That's anti-semitism!  They only wanted to keep their religion exactly as it had always been, and Christ threatens them with DYING IN THEIR SIN!?  The nerve...

Seriously, the anti-Jew conspiracy was brought upon them by themselves, freely and by choice:

Quote from: St. Matthew 27:22-25

Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. The governor said to them: Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying: Let him be crucified. And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it. And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.

They, by generation and as a religion, are the original, outspoken and irrevocable enemies of Christ, but to use terms such as 'kike', in referring to individuals is just an unnecessary injustice.  Not every person of Jєωιѕн blood rejects Christ, certainly there have been many converts, as reading the Council of Florence attests.

However, for those individuals who do, terms like "Christ denying Jews" or "apostate Jews" are not only not unjust, but they are wholly accurate.