Author Topic: John 3:5 (Read 36284 times)

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #155 on:** January 05, 2016, 06:44:07 PM »

With proper orientation, individual Truths are compatible, and could never contradict one another. The improper orientation results in misunderstandings, where one Truth is misinterpreted to conflict or contradict another Truth. In my example, orientation is synonymous with understanding.

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #156 on:** March 14, 2016, 12:37:46 AM »

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Quote from: Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ According to Saint John
3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The Scripture Annotation for John 3:5 (provided) says (in the margin note) "Baptism in two cases not necessary but otherwise supplied".

Desmond · « **Reply #157 on:** March 14, 2016, 03:10:20 AM »

I'm sick of this madness.
This is not how you do philosophy. Or theology. Or anything, really.

IF Trent says John 3:5 has to be taken literally, as it is written, THEN it necessarily must be true.

You cannot disregard the fact using linguistics, circuмlocutions, lower rank magisterial docuмents, private apparitions, not even the Holy Bible itself.

This has to stop.

Stubborn · « **Reply #158 on:** March 14, 2016, 06:43:19 AM »

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Quote from: JohnAnthonyMarie
Quote from: Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ According to Saint John
3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The Scripture Annotation for John 3:5 (provided) says (in the margin note) "Baptism in two cases not necessary but otherwise supplied".

It's pretty basic, your Scripture annotation for John 3:5 is wrong. The annotation from the Haydock is correct because it agrees with what the Church has always taught and it actually agrees with the words of Our Lord in John 3:5 - - plus it's in English which makes it easy to understand and the text is big enough to actually read.

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #159 on:** March 14, 2016, 09:17:28 AM »

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Quote from: JohnAnthonyMarie
Quote from: JohnAnthonyMarie
Quote from: Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ According to Saint John
3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The Scripture Annotation for John 3:5 (provided) says (in the margin note) "Baptism in two cases not necessary but otherwise supplied".

It's pretty basic, your Scripture annotation for John 3:5 is wrong.

The Scripture Annotation for John 3:5 was scanned from this Bible:

It is hard for me to imagine that this Scripture Annotation is in error. Is there any authoritative Church source that has ever made the same claim as you are making here?