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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: John 3:5
« Reply #365 on: August 15, 2017, 11:56:59 AM »
Quote from: DZ PLEASE on August 15, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
Hopefully he's an idiot, for the fires of Hell burn brighter the more sin is bolstered by deliberation. (Please note, primarily, Lat. "libera" root.)

Nobody? You sure? Then why are we talking? Oh, right, because we keep feedi ng him nickels so that he can shovel attentionalcherries.
I do not think anyone reads any of LOT's threads or for that matter, that anyone goes into the "Feeneyite" section because it is all composed of his postings. He had long ago now worn out his welcome and has established himself as a nut case. Without LOT there would be no "Feeneyite" sub-forum. Nobody on CI reads what he writes except a few people who see the strict interpretation of the dogmas on EENS as a rebuke to their belief that all people of "good" will are saved. I think that amounts to LOT and just two other persons.  

In the air warfare they have a material called chaff, a radar countermeasure in which aircraft spread a cloud of small thin pieces of aluminum which swamps the radar screen with many false targets, thereby hiding the real plane. LOT is just spreading chaff on this EENS forum.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: John 3:5
« Reply #366 on: August 15, 2017, 12:05:06 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on August 15, 2017, 10:11:48 AM
He's an idiot. I think it is some kind of machine that answers. Let him post all he wants, no one understands his mental gymnastics anyways.
Exhibit A of feeneyite theology.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: John 3:5
« Reply #367 on: August 15, 2017, 12:08:59 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on August 14, 2017, 04:45:59 PM
I'll ask it again.  This is THE CRUX of our debate...

Quote from: Pax Vobis on Today at 10:46:34 AM
LOT said:
... The logical conclusion and dogmatic fact and that one in a state of sanctifying grace goes to heaven.

Pax Vobis said:
The Church teaches that BAPTIZED, justified catholics go to heaven.
The Church does not teach that un-baptized, justified persons go to heaven.  She also does not say they go to hell.  She doesn't say they go anywhere.  So we don't know...

I say they go to limbo, since they are not baptized.  You say they go to heaven, just because they are the state of grace, but that contradict's Christ.  I really don't know, but neither of us can say with certainty.  Do you agree?
I see the question now.  I do not agree, but I base this on what the Church teaches.  You are in full accord with Feeney and is a step up from the modern feeneyite.  I say this matter-of-factly, not as a cut down.  There was much good about Feeney.  Monsignor Fenton liked him and was pulling for all things to work out for him temporally and eternally as all good Catholics would.  He was right to fear the universal salvation heresy.  
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: John 3:5
« Reply #368 on: August 15, 2017, 12:16:10 PM »
The remission of guilt is not possible without the infusion of grace.
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: John 3:5
« Reply #369 on: August 29, 2017, 02:08:30 PM »
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http://slideplayer.com/slide/9990513/

Presentation on theme: "Woman: “‘He that believeth and his baptized shall be saved’ is not in my Bible.’” Preacher: “Yes it is. In Mark 16:16” Woman: “No, its not in my Bible.”"— Presentation transcript:
1 Woman: “‘He that believeth and his baptized shall be saved’ is not in my Bible.’” Preacher: “Yes it is. In Mark 16:16” Woman: “No, its not in my Bible.” Preacher: “Let me have your Bible and I will show you.” He opened it to find – she had cut it out! 
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