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Offline Stubborn

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Re: LF Sources of Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2022, 01:25:43 PM »
Quote from: ServusInutilisDomini on October 17, 2022, 12:02:54 PM
Instead of finding saints supporting salvation without faith in Christ I found the opposite:
Here again we see St. Francis Xavier eliminating any idea of salvation for “the invincibly ignorant,” excluding from salvation even those ignorant souls whom he thought would embrace the Faith if they were taught it!
You pretty much said it all in the OP when you said: "...those who honestly seek God will find Him in this life."

Invincible ignorance will not be used as an excuse among people who have the capacity to reason. Our Lord said in Mat 16:9 that not believing in Him, in His Church, is a sin. No disclaimers, no exemptions of any sort, He said it's a sin. To die in that sin will put one in hell. In Mat 7:23 He said He will say: "I never knew you, depart from me you that work iniquity."

He says those who choose to remain ignorant are iniquitous, not virtuous.


  
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Offline BonifaceSVIII

Re: LF Sources of Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2022, 10:54:29 PM »
I find it interesting that toward the middle of the 20th century even basic spirituality was maligned as Jansenism by no less a figure than Fr. Connell, CSSR who edited the 1949 Baltimore Catechism 3 and taught the BOB/BOD nonsense.  A moralist and son of St. Alphonsus, another authority invoked for the BOB/BOD nonsense.  Funny that it should be moralists-teachers of the Law-from whom we learn Dogma not by what is true, but by what isn't necessarily sinful to hold.  It was Our Lord who was constantly refuting the moralists of his day.  Just seems like an interesting parallel.
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Offline BonifaceSVIII

Re: LF Sources of Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2022, 11:03:28 PM »
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Offline CoffeeEveryDay

Re: LF Sources of Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2022, 02:38:58 PM »
Quote from: St Giles on October 15, 2022, 04:55:32 PM
There should be no quotes or evidence to support it due to the danger it could cause to people's salvation by causing religious indifferentism.
Yes. Invincible ignorance is a form of denial of belief in God. If you do not accept God, no matter where you are, you are damned and nothing can be said against that.
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