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Offline Yeti

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Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2022, 03:55:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 07, 2021, 11:02:09 PM
    The Dimonds are most likely shills and fakes.  There's plenty of resources that expose them for the phoneys they are but I won't get into all that here.  They're not real monks and I think they are CIA plants personally, to keep tabs on the "trads" to make sure no one gets too close to the actual truth and send people down rabbit holes.  Like most shills, they say a lot of true things but enough deadly poison to make sure you're not actually Catholic or become one. 

    Actually this is my belief too. It sure fits the observable data. And there really isn't any other plausible explanation for why they do the things they do.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #16 on: April 02, 2022, 04:05:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on April 02, 2022, 03:55:19 PM
    Actually this is my belief too. It sure fits the observable data. And there really isn't any other plausible explanation for why they do the things they do.

    Like what things that they do?  As for being "fake monks", then the SSPX sisters, Bishop Kelly's sisters, and all the Traditional religious are "fake" religious.  None of them have any kind of canonical approval.  They're living the rule in a time of crisis with no Catholic authority.  They're as much monks as the SSPX sisters or Bishop Kellys sisters are sisters.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #17 on: April 02, 2022, 04:09:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 07, 2021, 03:27:42 PM
    Well I asked the Dimond brothers why they didn't find a bishop to ordain one of them priests and they told me that there was not one truly Catholic bishop with valid orders that they knew about. I am sure they looked for one.
    There MUST be a truly Catholic bishop somewhere, so the Church will continue.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #18 on: April 02, 2022, 04:10:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 07, 2021, 03:19:16 PM
    Don't worry, one day you'll get what you desire ;)
    :laugh1:
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #19 on: April 02, 2022, 04:13:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 10, 2021, 09:45:44 AM
    Is there one resistance group that isn't a cult or infested with spies and troublemakers?
    B. Zendejas' chapel in Texas seems good to me.  Haven't been to another that felt safe.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #20 on: April 02, 2022, 04:34:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 10, 2021, 11:18:25 AM
    Yet, they do, or have gone to a Greek Rite church which is under diocesan authority. A case could be made about the greater safety of a diocesan Greek rite bishop and priest, but it would seem contrary to what they have wrote. They appear to hold to the non una cuм error (older missals and hand missal had the king after Pope and bishop even in countries without a Catholic sovereign, so that's nonsense), so I don't know.
    They don't hold the non una cuм position, they even have an article on their website about it: https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/una-cuм-mass/

    As for them being CIA plants: maybe. I don't believe they are personally, but its possible. Present the evidence and we can discuss it, otherwise it's just vain speculation.
    That said, they sure put out some really solid apologetical videos against EO and Protestantism for "CIA plants."
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #21 on: April 02, 2022, 04:50:54 PM »
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    • I am unaware of any chapel or parish which rejects Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood along with the salvation by invincible ignorance and Natural Law hypothesis. The St. Benedict Center which was founded by Fr. Feeney has a visiting priest for Mass who himself does not hold to their positions on the matter. Moreover, even the St. Benedict Center has deviated from Fr. Feeney’s positions to a certain extent.

    After the passing of Fr. Wathen, I am also unaware of any priest in the world who holds to a “strict” interpretation of EENS. Fr. Wathen also rejected NFP, God rest his beautiful soul.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #22 on: April 02, 2022, 07:02:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Knight Templar on April 02, 2022, 04:50:54 PM
    I am unaware of any chapel or parish which rejects Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood along with the salvation by invincible ignorance and Natural Law hypothesis. The St. Benedict Center which was founded by Fr. Feeney has a visiting priest for Mass who himself does not hold to their positions on the matter. Moreover, even the St. Benedict Center has deviated from Fr. Feeney’s positions to a certain extent.

    After the passing of Fr. Wathen, I am also unaware of any priest in the world who holds to a “strict” interpretation of EENS. Fr. Wathen also rejected NFP, God rest his beautiful soul.

    There's Bishop Neal Webster, the one who attempted to consecrate Father Pfeiffer.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #23 on: April 02, 2022, 07:24:12 PM »
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    • I honestly don't get how MHFM are considered the most extreme/divisive group out there. I'd say Fr. Cekada (RIP) did far more damage to Catholic traditionalism than the Dimonds ever have. I've honestly gained more fruit from their videos than other traditionalist outlets.
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    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #24 on: April 02, 2022, 08:31:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 08, 2021, 09:25:51 AM
    The CMRI is fine as long as you don't sit in a pew and start talking about EENS. Just go to your local chapel and live a holy life. We do not need more divisions.
    Talking about EENS - or talk against using NFP. 
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #25 on: April 02, 2022, 08:41:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 02, 2022, 07:02:18 PM
    There's Bishop Neal Webster, the one who attempted to consecrate Father Pfeiffer.
    Don't trust him in the least.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #26 on: April 02, 2022, 08:44:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Merry on April 02, 2022, 08:31:41 PM
    Talking about EENS - or talk against using NFP.
    There is no perfect chapel.
    You do the best you can with what God provides you.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #27 on: April 02, 2022, 09:20:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on April 02, 2022, 08:44:43 PM
    There is no perfect chapel.
    You do the best you can with what God provides you.
    Not arguing that.  Just saying that the CMRI are liberals on EENS and promote Natural Family Planning.  Neither of these are small things. And they do affect the theology of these chapels, and perhaps your experience in confession - not to mention the sacrament of matrimony.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #28 on: April 02, 2022, 09:40:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Merry on April 02, 2022, 09:20:12 PM
    Not arguing that.  Just saying that the CMRI are liberals on EENS and promote Natural Family Planning.  Neither of these are small things. And they do affect the theology of these chapels, and perhaps your experience in confession - not to mention the sacrament of matrimony.
    Don't get me started on matrimony.
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    Re: Is there REALLY no anti-BOD congregation?
    « Reply #29 on: April 02, 2022, 09:50:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on April 02, 2022, 08:41:24 PM
    Don't trust him in the least.

    I knew him for years ... before he was even ordained a priest.  He’s a good man.  Now, if you’re concerned about the validity of his Orders, that’s a separate matter.

    What do you mean that you don’t trust him?
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