Author Topic: Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew? (Read 5764 times)

brainglitch · « **Reply #35 on:** May 06, 2013, 09:28:35 PM »

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What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?

They are no longer Jews, then.

But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.

There are, and have been throughout history, many Jews who converted to Catholicism for the sole purpose of mischief and the deliberate destruction of ancient texts and sources of historical connection. Jews, in following their religious beliefs, are under no obligation to be honest with non-Jews.

Queen Esther, for one, is a sacred figure in Jєωιѕн lore who pretended to not be a Jew so she could ingratiate herself to a powerful gentile and be of assistance to the Jєωιѕн people.

There's even Jacob, while in the employ of Laban, weasling his way through the stock of sheep procuring the best for himself by means of deception.

We are in search of the mythical "good Jew" and still looking.

What do you think of cases such as Alphonse Ratisbone?Do you think that he was faking his conversion?

Or do all Jews fake their conversion? Should we treat all Jews who convert as Marranos until proven otherwise (although I am not sure how you could prove that)?

brainglitch · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2013, 09:30:10 PM »

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What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?

They are no longer Jews, then.

But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.

No, Judaism is a religion. Hence why you have American Jews, Polish Jews, Russian Jews, etc.

I still think Judaism is a race. There has to be some people today who are descendants of the tribes of Israel. Those people I would say are Jews by race. Then there are converts after that.

Do you believe those people can be saved if they convert?

I'm not sure why you are asking that. We should all know that Jesus Christ came so that all of mankind could be saved. Why would I think Jews couldn't be? I will say that if they did want to convert then we should send them back to Israel and then they can convert there.

Israel?

Don't you mean occupied Palestine? The Israelis should recognize the independence of the free State of Palestine and stop butchering innocent civilians to impose their martial law and apartheid.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2013, 10:04:53 PM »

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Israel?

Don't you mean occupied Palestine? The Israelis should recognize the independence of the free State of Palestine and stop butchering innocent civilians to impose their martial law and apartheid.

Israel is obviously an apartheid state and Gaza is an Israeli cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ however we know who has the true power and that is the Jews.

By the way speaking of apartheid are you happy that a train bomber and terrorist like Mendela became a leader in South Africa?

brainglitch · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2013, 10:17:49 PM »

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Israel?

Don't you mean occupied Palestine? The Israelis should recognize the independence of the free State of Palestine and stop butchering innocent civilians to impose their martial law and apartheid.

Israel is obviously an apartheid state and Gaza is an Israeli cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ however we know who has the true power and that is the Jews.

By the way speaking of apartheid are you happy that a train bomber and terrorist like Mendela became a leader in South Africa?

Mandela is a terrorist and should have spent the rest of his life in prison. A murderer should not be a head of state.

I also believe that the African nations should not have become independent until they were fully Catholic, which (barring the disaster of Vatican II) would have happened in due course. Probably the European nations should have stayed for another hundred years, perhaps longer. Then, there would have been the same good results that occurred in South and Central America (although the Americas would have been even better, had the Spanish stayed longer). The African nations could have become gradually independent as they developed a fully Catholic identity, and truly organic nations could have emerged, rather than the patchwork nations-in-name-only that the European modernists left behind.

Emitte Lucem Tuam · « **Reply #39 on:** May 07, 2013, 05:29:37 AM »

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What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?

They are no longer Jews, then.

But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.

Galatians 3:26-29

For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's, then are you the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise.