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Offline InfiniteFaith

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Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
« on: May 05, 2013, 01:14:44 PM »
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    • Do you think there might be Jews out there that fall into the category of Baptism of Desire thus giving them a chance for Salvation? I imagine if there are then there would be few of them. Even if there are I still think we should deport them to Israel for the sake of Christianity. What do you think?
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    Offline Mithrandylan

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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 02:37:13 PM »
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    • I can't imagine how one could belong to a religion that is predicated on denying the divinity of Jesus Christ could simultaneously desire to be baptized into His Mystical Body.  I think they call these propositions "mutually exclusive."
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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 02:39:08 PM »
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    I can't imagine how one could belong to a religion that is predicated on denying the divinity of Jesus Christ could simultaneously desire to be baptized into His Mystical Body.  I think they call these propositions "mutually exclusive."


    So basically you are saying that people who reject Jesus Christ do not get the Baptism of Desire? I think I might agree with you on that.
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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 02:46:11 PM »
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    • I do think all of the Christ-haters should be deported back to Israhell, and all foreign aid to Israhell needs to end now. Let the "chosen people" fend for themselves, too. If they are so "chosen", then why do they need over $ 3 BILLION a year of American tax dollars, and why do they need the U.S. to fight their wars or back them up whenever they initiate conflicts? Charges against Dov Zakheim, Michael Chertoff, Larry Silverstein, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, etc., all of whom were involved in the 9/11 attacks, need to be brought to justice, too.  :judge:

    (Btw, I didn't thumb you down)
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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 02:57:45 PM »
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    • There will be a remnant of the Jews that will convert to Christianity before the end of the world.  I would think that these would not be the Zionists, but members of the 12 tribes.
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    « Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 03:10:41 PM »
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    • Your definition of Baptism of Desire is inaccurate. What you're describing is invincible ignorance.

    No, there is no such thing as a "good" Jew. A person who rejects Our Lord Jesus Christ is not "good", but rather is a godless person who is on the path to hell.
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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 03:25:59 PM »
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    • What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?
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    Offline Mithrandylan

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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 03:30:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: brainglitch
    What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?


    They are no longer Jews, then.
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    « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 03:32:49 PM »
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    What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?


    They are no longer Jews, then.


    But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.
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    Offline John Grace

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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 03:37:32 PM »
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    • I pray each day for the conversion of the Jews. On another point many people will be familiar with  Birobidjan

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    The Jєωιѕн Republic homeland
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    for rationalising the First Jєωιѕн Homeland - Birobidjan, capital of the Jєωιѕн Autonomous Region (J.A.R.) - as the Sole and Safe Jєωιѕн Homeland - thus restoring Palestinian sovereignty and former tranquillity in the Middle East.
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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 03:38:54 PM »
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    What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?


    They are no longer Jews, then.


    But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.


    We're talking about "Jєωιѕн" in the religious sense of the word. In that sense, they would not be Jєωιѕн.
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    « Reply #11 on: May 05, 2013, 03:46:36 PM »
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    What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?


    They are no longer Jews, then.


    But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.


    No, Judaism is a religion.  Hence why you have American Jews, Polish Jews, Russian Jews, etc.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 05, 2013, 03:49:50 PM »
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    What about Jews who convert to the Catholic Faith?


    They are no longer Jews, then.


    But isn't there a blood and ethnicity component to being Jєωιѕн? I was wondering because I know some people who are Catholics that used to be Jews and I was curious as to whether they would still be considered Jєωιѕн or not.


    No, Judaism is a religion.  Hence why you have American Jews, Polish Jews, Russian Jews, etc.



    Then why do they say that some people "look" Jєωιѕн? Hooked noses, etc. Jєωιѕн last names, that kind of thing.

    That has not been my experience, I have to admit-none of the few Jews that I have known "looked Jєωιѕн" or had stereotypical "Jєωιѕн" last names. But I would have to think there is some kind of racial/ethnic component to Jєωιѕнness, right?
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    Is there a such thing as a "Good" Jew?
    « Reply #13 on: May 05, 2013, 03:52:28 PM »
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    • They're called Russian Jews, not Jєωιѕн Russians.

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    « Reply #14 on: May 05, 2013, 03:55:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Telesphorus
    They're called Russian Jews, not Jєωιѕн Russians.

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    So you think that Jєωιѕнness is racial, then? It's not something that can be got rid of by becoming Catholic?

    I heard a theory once that there is a kind of racial curse on Jews, because of the Deicide. Does anyone know any more about this? Would it be something that could be removed by conversion, if it exists?
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