Author Topic: Implicit Faith - Defying the Law of Non-contradiction at Every Turn (Read 31108 times)

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #290 on:** January 16, 2012, 01:29:16 AM »

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People can and do change their minds.

I can see that Gregory is a person who has changed his mind in the past when he became convinced that certain things are correct.

I pray he does not become too hardened in this current error he holds.

One has to be open to truth. Clearly some people aren't -- at least not at present.

In my experience once people fall into the Feeneyite errors/heresies it has a very unsalutary effect in them.

It is interesting to witness the effects of a modern-day, contemporary heresy.

Of course it also very saddening to see the tragic still unfolding outcome of it. One can see how widespread the effects have become. The ramifactions are enormous. Witnessing this allows a better understanding of Church History, and how it took centuries sometimes for heresies to be wiped out, only to see them resurface sometimes, in some cases with new slants or variations in order for Satan to more easily deceive the elect.

Augustinian · « **Reply #291 on:** January 16, 2012, 06:28:09 PM »

To "Roman Catholic":

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Do you believe that a Pagan or a Jew who disbelieves in Christ can have 'Baptism of Desire'?

Gregory I · « **Reply #292 on:** January 16, 2012, 07:22:50 PM »

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Quote from: Augstine Baker
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Okay, we are done.

Just for the record, I am not trying to convert anyone. I am trying to demonstrate that the unanimous teaching of all the Fathers of the church is that ONLY Sacramental Water Baptism Justifies. I feel I did that.

However, I see that you are not interested now.

No hard feelings?

People can and do change their minds.

But it's best to give a good showing for others who might be watching above all.

There may be no point to responding to the bile for the person suffering from it, but your posts certainly weren't lost on me, thanks for the effort.

Gregory in charity and in justice, would you at least try to diabuse AugBaker of his his manifest errors about The Council of Trent, The Cathechism of The Council of Trent, and his smearing of St Thomas as a heretic?

I don't know what his errors are.

But, I definitely tell people I agree with in general if I disagree with some of their particulars. Ask Augustinian.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #293 on:** January 16, 2012, 09:14:19 PM »

Quote from: Gregory I

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Quote from: Augstine Baker
Quote from: Gregory I
Okay, we are done.

Just for the record, I am not trying to convert anyone. I am trying to demonstrate that the unanimous teaching of all the Fathers of the church is that ONLY Sacramental Water Baptism Justifies. I feel I did that.

However, I see that you are not interested now.

No hard feelings?

People can and do change their minds.

But it's best to give a good showing for others who might be watching above all.

There may be no point to responding to the bile for the person suffering from it, but your posts certainly weren't lost on me, thanks for the effort.

Gregory in charity and in justice, would you at least try to diabuse AugBaker of his his manifest errors about The Council of Trent, The Cathechism of The Council of Trent, and his smearing of St Thomas as a heretic?

I don't know what his errors are.

But, I definitely tell people I agree with in general if I disagree with some of their particulars. Ask Augustinian.

Yes you do, or you did. You commented on some of them in the course of the discussions. Maybe you have forgotten a lot of what he says. I understand.

Here are two serious un-Catholic errors:

AugBaker declares that St. Thomas Aquinas is a heretic.

Augbaker declares that The Catechism of The Council Of Trent is full of errors.

So as I requested, in charity and in justice, would you at least try to diabuse him of those errors?

He may listen to you. Maybe. He is not open to valid information from Catholics who do not share his other errors.

Gregory I · « **Reply #294 on:** January 16, 2012, 09:57:35 PM »

OH!

I thought for some reason of something else....