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Immaculate Conception, No Big Deal (Bp. Fellay)
« on: August 10, 2019, 04:04:33 AM »
Catholics know that The Blessed Mother of God, Mary Most Holy, was conceived in a state of grace. This was a great event in history, for which the Church holds her as the most perfect human being ever created by God (Jesus Christ is God and man). Apparently, Bp. Fellay thinks that acquiring sanctifying grace is no big deal, for in the quote below, he creates a Hindu (could have been anyone in any false religion) who is born in a state of grace or even put himself in a state of grace. This is what they teach at the SSPX seminaries. It is no wonder he wants to join the Vatican II sect.


Bishop Bernard Fellay, Conference in Denver, Co., Feb. 18, 2006:

“We know that there are two other baptisms, that of desire and that of blood. These produce an invisible but real link with Christ but do not produce all of the effects which are received in the baptism of water… And the Church has always taught that you have people who will be in heaven, who are in the state of grace, who have been saved without knowing the Catholic Church.  We know this. And yet, how is it possible if you cannot be saved outside the Church? It is absolutely true that they will be saved through the Catholic Church because they will be united to Christ, to the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Catholic Church. It will, however, remain invisible, because this visible link is impossible for them. Consider a Hindu in Tibet who has no knowledge of the Catholic Church. He lives according to his conscience and to the laws which God has put into his heart. He can be in the state of grace, and if he dies in this state of grace, he will go to heaven.” (The Angelus, “A Talk Heard Round the World,” April, 2006, p. 5.)





Re: Immaculate Conception, No Big Deal (Bp. Fellay)
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2019, 12:28:57 PM »
Just to not assume +Fellay is Satan, I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he at some point did not say the Hindu was immaculately conceived, and he was referring to the individual having made a perfect act of contrition as well 


Re: Immaculate Conception, No Big Deal (Bp. Fellay)
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2019, 05:03:12 PM »
Just to not assume +Fellay is Satan, I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he at some point did not say the Hindu was immaculately conceived, and he was referring to the individual having made a perfect act of contrition as well
Bishop Fellay is just teaching what he was taught at the SSPX seminary and what they continue to teach at the seminary. He believes that Hindus, Mohamedans, Buddhists, Jews..... can be saved without baptism, without desiring baptism, without desiring to be Catholic, without belief in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity, and without a perfect act of contrition. He believes that they can be saved by their belief in a god that rewards. They call it implicit faith.

Do you think he is Satan for teaching that?

Re: Immaculate Conception, No Big Deal (Bp. Fellay)
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2019, 05:27:12 PM »
This thread defines "click bait."
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Immaculate Conception, just another smear tactic.

Re: Immaculate Conception, No Big Deal (Bp. Fellay)
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2019, 05:30:21 PM »
Just to not assume +Fellay is Satan, I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he at some point did not say the Hindu was immaculately conceived, and he was referring to the individual having made a perfect act of contrition as well
Yeah this is utterly unrelated to the immaculate conception.  This is just a really, really weird way to bash Bishop Fellay for being on a side of the invincible ignorance debate that OP disagrees with.

Doesn't Bishop Williamson hold this too?  Archbishop Lefebvre did as well.