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Offline Ladislaus

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If I were elected Pope ...
« on: March 07, 2021, 07:35:39 AM »
If I were elected Pope, the FIRST thing I would do would be to issue a Bull (not an Encyclical) called Ecclesia Sancta.

I would solemnly redefine EENS (without allowing any wiggle room), solemnly reaffirm the necessity of the Sacraments for salvation, and solemnly teach the VISIBILITY of the Catholic Church.

While I would fall short of declaring BoD heretical, I would characterize it as a speculation and positively FORBID any mention of it among Catholics.  Let your speech be "yes, yes" and "no, no".  If asked whether anyone outside the Catholic Church can be saved, the answer is an unqualified NO, no ifs, and, or buts.  When asked if the Sacrament of Baptism is necessary for salvation, the answer is an unqualified YES.

I would order that the references in the works of the Doctors to BoD be removed from the main text and inserted as a mere footnote with an explanation that the Church no longer allows speculation with regard to BoD.

Next would be a Bull regarding the nature of the Liturgy, including forbidding all lay participation in strictly Liturgical functions, and re-establishing the practice that all those in the Sanctuary and participating in the Liturgy should have the Minor Orders (which would thereafter be allowed to be permanent).  This to wipe out any aberrant notions regarding the nature of the Liturgy.

I would DESPOSE every single Novus Ordo bishop and have them consigned to a monastery and, if unwilling, defrock them.  I would immediately obtain a list of all Traditional priests active in any Diocese and appoint them bishops with strict instructions to do exactly as they were told.  Those who have dubious orders would be immediately conditionally ordained and/or consecrated.

Re: If I were elected Pope ...
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2021, 08:06:20 AM »
I would solemnly redefine EENS (without allowing any wiggle room), solemnly reaffirm the necessity of the Sacraments for salvation, and solemnly teach the VISIBILITY of the Catholic Church.

While I would fall short of declaring BoD heretical, I would characterize it as a speculation and positively FORBID any mention of it among Catholics.  Let your speech be "yes, yes" and "no, no".  If asked whether anyone outside the Catholic Church can be saved, the answer is an unqualified NO, no ifs, and, or buts.  When asked if the Sacrament of Baptism is necessary for salvation, the answer is an unqualified YES.

Problem:

If you did that, you might find yourself holding the short end of the stick.  Check out this terrifying blurb from the latest Avrille Dominicans newsletter on the problem of invalid baptisms:

"The grave problem of invalid baptisms

The liturgical anarchy that has been raging for over 60 years can have some very grave consequences.
Two recent examples:

1) On June 24 th , 2020, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith officially issued a reminder of the
traditional doctrine, according to which the Baptism formula, “We baptize you, in the name of the Father,
etc.” is invalid. (This formula, using the plural rather than the singular, is in vogue in modernist circles, as it
allows the “People of God” to usurp the role of the priest.)

Hearing of this decision in August, a priest in the archdiocese of Detroit, Fr. Matthew Hood, decided to
watch the video of his Baptism… There he saw the deacon using the invalid formula! Invalid Baptism,
invalid priesthood… as well as the invalidity of all the sacraments he had himself administered since his
“ordination” in 2017.

2) In Brittany, last September, a young girl was preparing for her First Communion. In questioning the
parents, the priest realized that the girl had not validly received the sacrament of Baptism: indeed, the God-
mother had poured the water while the priest pronounced the words!"

In other words, if there is no baptism of desire, how many people like these two would be damned on a technicality?  The only solution would be to necessitate adult baptism to prevent such abuses/mistakes (and how many would be damned between the age of reason and the adult baptism)?  What are the implications for the justice and mercy of God, if such people could not be saved?  Or are all baptisms to be repeated on the basis of negative doubt?


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: If I were elected Pope ...
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2021, 02:10:51 PM »
Problem:

If you did that, you might find yourself holding the short end of the stick.  Check out this terrifying blurb from the latest Avrille Dominicans newsletter on the problem of invalid baptisms:

Indeed, if a Pope had to fix ALL the problems caused by the Novus Ordo, it would probably take 10 years.

I agree.  I would conditionally have every NO Sacrament redone, including interviewing candidates to check if they were actually Catholic.  They would have to take an oath of some kind, an extremely expanded Anti-Modernist Oath or Profession of Faith since 90% of them don't have the faith and shouldn't be admitted into the Church.

Novus Ordo has created a disaster of epic proportions.

I imagine that some bishops would refuse to leave and pull what the Nine did against the SSPX, sue Rome to keep their properties.  They would probably win too, given that the governments are all controlled.  That's why you need the Great King to be there, since the Triumph of the Church will need to be both spiritual and temporal.  In that case, I would in fact appropriate the Traditional Catholic infrastructure and move the Sees to the closet Traditional Church.  I bet 90% of the Novus Ordites would stay with their schismatic bishop in their new Church.

That's why I said this would just be the FRIST thing I'd do.

We could come up with a list a few yards long if we thought about it much.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: If I were elected Pope ...
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2021, 02:14:58 PM »
If you were elected Pope and *Universally Accepted*, the Gates of Hell would prevail against the Catholic Church. Not going to happen.

Then the second thing I would be would be to excommunicate XavierSem and Lover of Truth (just for good measure).

Thank you for your contribution to the thread.  Obviously I will never be Pope.  But the point of this thread it to make more concrete WHAT a Pope should do, in our opinion, to restore the Church.

But I imagine you think that no restoration is needed.  You, not actually being a Traditional Catholic, would probably just make minor changes and would put band-aids on what has been a radical transformation of the Catholic Church into a non-Catholic entity.

Explain what you would do.

No, every Bishop ... well, except a small handful, would need to be deposed and are not even salvageable as Catholic bishops.  They need to be deposed for crimes against God and the Church and can never be trusted with power in the Church again.

Let's say that happened and that a schismatic Novus Ordo Church formed, with these bishops refusing to step down.  What percentage of "Catholics" do you believe would stay with the schismatic NO bishops?  Probably 90%.  That tells you how few there are who still have the Catholic faith.  Go ahead and mandate (again) that no Catholics who use contraception that they are forbidden from receiving Communion.  90% of them would leave the Church.

I've had some thoughts along the lines of, well, it might be better to do it gradually.  No, there has to be a radical transformation.  In fact, the Church MUST be greatly reduced in numbers to excise the pollution from the Body of True Catholics who remain in the Church.

That's the only way to do it ... depose ever darn one of these criminals and replace them with the closest Traditional Catholic priest.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: If I were elected Pope ...
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2021, 02:29:43 PM »
If you were elected Pope and *Universally Accepted*, the Gates of Hell would prevail against the Catholic Church. Not going to happen.

This actually shows your true colors.  You would rather have a guy like Ratzinger or even Bergoglio than someone who happens to believe, with St. Augustine, that God will not let anyone die without actually receiving the Sacrament of Baptism.  Given that this dogma (EENS and ecclesiology) is hard hit even among Traditional Catholics, THAT is why I said that this would be the FIRST thing that I did.  Rabid BoDers consider Feeneyites to be a bigger threat to the faith and open Conciliar heretics.  They consider Fr. Feeney to be the bad guy and the heretic Cushing the good guy in that entire ordeal.  That shows how warped your mind and your sense of the faith are.

For you, BoD has become some bizarre strange warped super-dogma that tops all other dogmas.

Of course, after having replaced all the NO bishops (I would rather have a Traditional priest in that position than a NO heretic with advanced degrees from Conciliar Rome), if the Consecration of Russia had not already been done (unlikely since a great pope like me :-) would never be elected unless that had happened), I would immєdιαtely order all these new Bishops to make the Consecration ASAP.