Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: St. John Vianney: Fr. Herman Cohen's Mother was Saved by Baptism of Desire!  (Read 3231 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Incredulous

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9360
  • Reputation: +9153/-885
  • Gender: Male
Re: St. John Vianney: Fr. Herman Cohen's Mother was Saved by Baptism of Desire!
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2021, 08:53:08 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Selfish interjection here:  While we're on the topic, can you all say a prayer for my mother's conversion, that she ask for baptism (probably from me) before her death?  Although she's still doing okay, she is 88 years old now.

    A most worthy cause!
    :pray:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

    Offline Incredulous

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 9360
    • Reputation: +9153/-885
    • Gender: Male
    Re: St. John Vianney: Fr. Herman Cohen's Mother was Saved by Baptism of Desire!
    « Reply #46 on: February 18, 2021, 09:02:22 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I believe I've been disabled from making posts, so I'm gonna hijack this thread too (admittedly for a far less important purpose than 2Vermont's) to ask a question: who are some saints who can help you get out of despondency?

    St. Jean Vianney and Padre Pio both being mentioned in this thread reminded me of this, since they're both priests who were joyful and light, as well as profoundly lovable men who gave simple advice and who have helped millions. Plus, I figure it's more pleasant than another BoD thread where certain pro-BoDers passive aggressively attack everyone else. :P

    God Bless you all! And 2Vermont, your mother will be in my prayers too!


    Here's an audiobook of St. John Vianney's sermons.



    The reader is well balanced and the sermon contents are really good.

    As Bishop Williamson has said, when the French have the Faith, no other race can match them spiritually.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


    Offline Nishant Xavier

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2873
    • Reputation: +1894/-1751
    • Gender: Male
    Re: St. John Vianney: Fr. Herman Cohen's Mother was Saved by Baptism of Desire!
    « Reply #47 on: February 18, 2021, 09:14:59 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Prayers for your Mother, 2Vermont.  :pray: May God give her the Grace to come to Christ and His Church and be saved. Amen.

    Dear Donkath, I must have answered Last Tradhican's question on what I believe like 10 times, including on this thread, but he doesn't want to hear it. I don't believe anyone will be saved without conversion, without at least explicit faith in Jesus Christ and perfect contrition. I gave Last Trad a source from Cardinal Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider, which the SSPX endorsed, that said no one is saved without faith in Christ as true God and Savior. Last Trad absurdly implied this didn't mean what it said. Bishop Athanasius Schneider has been arguing against salvation by implicit faith for a long time, and I agree with H.E.

    I've been trying to search for what exactly Bishop Fellay believes, and am not sure H.E. believes the Hindu in question would be saved without conversion. Since H.E. is still alive, someone can contact and ask: This is what H.E. said recently, "Once again, the Holy See’s response was to say: “That is not from the Magisterium.” And quite recently you have a docuмent published by Cardinal Koch on relations with the Jews (Docuмent of the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, December 10, 2015). It is a terrible docuмent, completely heretical, which claims that the Jews can be saved without coming through Our Lord (par. 36). Exactly the opposite of what Sacred Scripture teaches us, along with the first pope himself, Saint Peter, who says this to the Jews: “There is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). In other words, there is no other means of being saved except through Our Lord. And here Cardinal Koch thinks that you can make a statement saying the contrary. But, he tells us in black and white (in the Preface): “This is not doctrinal teaching.”

    But then what game are they playing? They teach without teaching. This causes confusion everywhere. It is a new attitude. Until now it was clear to every Catholic that when Rome speaks: Roma locuta est, causa finita est. Rome speaks, Rome teaches, and that’s the end of the discussion. And here they are telling us that, no, “it is intended to be a starting point for further theological thought.” https://sspx.org/en/can-pastoral-council-be-debatable

    Offline donkath

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1517
    • Reputation: +616/-116
    • Gender: Female
      • h
    Re: St. John Vianney: Fr. Herman Cohen's Mother was Saved by Baptism of Desire!
    « Reply #48 on: February 18, 2021, 11:02:37 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Prayers for your Mother, 2Vermont.  :pray: May God give her the Grace to come to Christ and His Church and be saved. Amen.

    Dear Donkath, I must have answered Last Tradhican's question on what I believe like 10 times, including on this thread, but he doesn't want to hear it. I don't believe anyone will be saved without conversion, without at least explicit faith in Jesus Christ and perfect contrition. I gave Last Trad a source from Cardinal Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider, which the SSPX endorsed, that said no one is saved without faith in Christ as true God and Savior. Last Trad absurdly implied this didn't mean what it said. Bishop Athanasius Schneider has been arguing against salvation by implicit faith for a long time, and I agree with H.E.

    I've been trying to search for what exactly Bishop Fellay believes, and am not sure H.E. believes the Hindu in question would be saved without conversion. Since H.E. is still alive, someone can contact and ask: This is what H.E. said recently, "Once again, the Holy See’s response was to say: “That is not from the Magisterium.” And quite recently you have a docuмent published by Cardinal Koch on relations with the Jҽωs (Docuмent of the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jҽωs, December 10, 2015). It is a terrible docuмent, completely heretical, which claims that the Jҽωs can be saved without coming through Our Lord (par. 36). Exactly the opposite of what Sacred Scripture teaches us, along with the first pope himself, Saint Peter, who says this to the Jҽωs: “There is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). In other words, there is no other means of being saved except through Our Lord. And here Cardinal Koch thinks that you can make a statement saying the contrary. But, he tells us in black and white (in the Preface): “This is not doctrinal teaching.”

    But then what game are they playing? They teach without teaching. This causes confusion everywhere. It is a new attitude. Until now it was clear to every Catholic that when Rome speaks: Roma locuta est, causa finita est. Rome speaks, Rome teaches, and that’s the end of the discussion. And here they are telling us that, no, “it is intended to be a starting point for further theological thought.” https://sspx.org/en/can-pastoral-council-be-debatable

    Quote
    Dear Donkath, I must have answered Last Tradhican's question on what I believe like 10 times,



    Replied to this on the other thread Xaviersem HERE  

    ..
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."