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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: God's salvific will to save "all men" and the death of unbaptized infants
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2023, 07:13:10 PM »
Scripture's infallible teaching that God gives all men sufficient grace does not lead to V2 errors.  :facepalm:  I already pointed out that JP2 garbled this truth and corrupted it for ecuмenical purposes.  

The point you miss is the Eternal goodness of God's Providence, who sees all things - past, present and future - at the same time.  So, for an infant who dies, God forsaw the graces this infant WOULD RECEIVE IN THE FUTURE, and reject them, so He took their life early, so to prevent damnation.  

The above is an example of Gods mercy, not a denial of Scripture.  
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Offline Kazimierz

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« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2023, 07:21:18 PM »
That God's wills all to be saved - condition for the possibility. God has provided the means for salvation, but one can still reject His grace. 

Unless you follow Rahner, where you are so overwhelmed by grace via the supernatural existential, you CANNOT say no. I called it "damned to salvation."
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Offline Motorede

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« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2023, 08:06:46 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 07, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
St. Augustine:
Where can I find this quote? Confessions? City of God? Thanks
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Offline DecemRationis

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« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2023, 08:19:29 PM »
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2023, 08:41:28 PM »
Saint Fulgentius:

“Who will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
-2 Timothy 2:4

“Nevertheless, these “all men” whom God wishes to save include not the entire human race altogether, but rather the totality of those who are to be saved. 

So the word “all” is mentioned because the divine kindness saves all kinds from among all men, that is, from every race, status, and age, from every language and every region.”

-St Fulgentius of Ruspe-Correspondence on Christology and Grace.
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