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Offline poche

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Re: From Father Galitzin
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2018, 02:02:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on February 14, 2018, 09:14:50 AM
    That's not necessarily true. There are an untold number of people who convert to any number of "religions", not because they believe it's the only true church but just because they happen to like certain aspects of it more than others. They may even appear zealous for that particular "religion" in one way or another.
    He gave up a huge inheritance when he became Catholic.
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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #16 on: February 17, 2018, 01:33:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 12, 2018, 10:45:56 AM
    I would suggest that it was due to his hard work bringing the true Faith to the people of that area.  
    Why bother if they can desire baptism from a distance?  BECAUSE they needed BAPTISM OF WATER in order to enter the Church and be able to receive any other sacrament!  Why did Arch. L. go to Africa?  BECAUSE the natives could not be saved without Baptism of Water.  The Church in her highest authority says WATER is necessary, and there is no substitute.  BOD/BOB is only the SPECULATION of various saints and theologians while Baptism of Water is ABSOLUTE.

    "Unless a man be born again of WATER and the Holy Ghost, he CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven." - Jesus Christ 
     
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    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #17 on: February 17, 2018, 09:40:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on February 17, 2018, 08:23:15 AM
    :applause: So?
    What have you given up for the Faith?
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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #18 on: February 17, 2018, 09:41:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Merry on February 17, 2018, 01:33:33 PM
    Why bother if they can desire baptism from a distance?  BECAUSE they needed BAPTISM OF WATER in order to enter the Church and be able to receive any other sacrament!  Why did Arch. L. go to Africa?  BECAUSE the natives could not be saved without Baptism of Water.  The Church in her highest authority says WATER is necessary, and there is no substitute.  BOD/BOB is only the SPECULATION of various saints and theologians while Baptism of Water is ABSOLUTE.

    "Unless a man be born again of WATER and the Holy Ghost, he CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven." - Jesus Christ
     
    So, Father Galitzin has something in common with Archbishop Lefebvre. 
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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #19 on: February 18, 2018, 10:53:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on February 01, 2018, 12:02:55 AM
    Gallitzin's part in building up the Roman Catholic church in western Pennsylvania cannot be overestimated; it is said that at his death there were 10,000 Roman Catholics in the district where forty years before he had found a scant dozen. 
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    It does not say he converted 10,000 to the faith or that he brought back to the Church 10,000 Catholics, it just says "at his death there were 10,000 Roman Catholics in the district where forty years before he had found a scant dozen". It does not say that the 10,000 "Catholics" even went to mass.

    It says that in 40 years there were 10,000 Catholics. That is no surprise, as immigration from Catholic countries went from droplets to a flood at that time all over the USA.
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    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #20 on: February 18, 2018, 11:08:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on January 11, 2018, 01:57:32 AM
    ""Whatever differences on points of doctrine may exist amongst the different denominations of Christians, all should be united in the bonds of charity, all should pray for one another, all should be willing to assist one another; and, where we are compelled to disapprove of our neighbor's doctrine, let our disapprobation fall upon his doctrine only, not upon his person.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_Augustine_Gallitzin
    The real world result of such teaching can be viewed first hand in South America, since that has been the teaching since Vatican II.

    In Brazil, the largest population Catholic country (all of Central and South America was Catholic) , today as many Protestants go to "church" on Sundays as Catholics, and they are growing fast in numbers by the day. This is happening all over South America, where there were no Protestants before. To be clear, in Brazil, only about 7% of Catholics go to mass, and that is to the Novus Ordo, so the majority of Catholics have fallen away from the faith altogether AS A RESULT of the indifferentism taught to them by the Vatican II policy which is identical to the quote by Fr. Gallitzin above.

    The Spanish preserved their country and possessions (all of the America's South of the USA) from the heretical Protestants with the sword and spread the faith throughout the world. The Vatican II religion has dissolved the faith from all of those countries with the white flag of indifferentism.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 02:27:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on February 18, 2018, 08:43:38 AM
    How is that an answer?
    I said that just because someone converts and tries to convert others does not necessarily mean they are not indifferent towards religion. That might only mean that they happen to like one religion more than another.
    Your response was to tell me that he gave up an inheritance. That does not refute what I said but is irrelevant.
    When I said "So?" to you, your response is to ask me what I've given up for the faith? How is this a rational conversation?
    When he converted to the Catholic Faith, it was not for any political or social expediency. His family disowned him and he became unpopular in the social circle that he was part of.  
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    Re: From Father Galitzin
    « Reply #22 on: February 19, 2018, 10:21:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on February 19, 2018, 07:32:58 AM
    What is the point of arguing for him? His own words prove he was indifferent towards religion.
    His actions show that he was a believer in the Catholic Faith. 
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