Author Topic: Limbo damned to hell... (Read 24228 times)

katoliko · « **Reply #35 on:** May 28, 2007, 11:54:11 PM »

I'm having trouble with limbo and Pope Pius XI's encylical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore... please help.

7. "Here, too, our beloved sons and venerable brothers, it is again necessary to mention and censure a very grave error entrapping some Catholics who believe that it is possible to arrive at eternal salvation although living in error and alienated from the true faith and Catholic unity. Such belief is certainly opposed to Catholic teaching. There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments."

Trinity · « **Reply #36 on:** May 29, 2007, 09:44:10 AM »

What is your problem with it, kato?

katoliko · « **Reply #37 on:** May 29, 2007, 06:31:48 PM »

Quote from: Trinity

What is your problem with it, kato?

well, doesn't it go against limbo? babies baptised or not do not deliberately sin

Trinity · « **Reply #38 on:** May 29, 2007, 06:49:16 PM »

Limbo isn't punishment. My understanding of it is that without baptism we may not enjoy the beatific vision. Limbo is a place of happiness, though not the highest happiness. But this is why a parent's responsibility is so very grave.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #39 on:** May 29, 2007, 09:03:01 PM »

Quote from: Trinity

Limbo is a place of happiness, though not the highest happiness.

It is a place of the highest possible natural happiness, glimpses of which we often experience even while in via. The major difference is that we know these are fleeting, and that we are in a position to obtain much, much more, while those in limbo are in complete possession of this happiness, and cannot ever lose it.