Author Topic: Fr. Stepanich on Outside of the Church There is No Salvation (Read 17296 times)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #30 on:** July 19, 2009, 09:06:52 PM »

You answered the two questions above?

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CM · « **Reply #31 on:** July 19, 2009, 09:22:50 PM »

Your "two questions" are just one question. I already told you it was a professional Latin translator. Someone who charges a lot of money.

Now are you going to present the Stepanich quotes you are most convinced by, or are you going to ask me to post an encyclopedia of quotes to refute everything that Dawn posted from Stepanich? Please do the first, since I don't have enough time to do the second.

CM · « **Reply #32 on:** July 19, 2009, 09:29:27 PM »

I just realized you also asked who the translators were from Latin to English on the Catechism... I don't know, but I'll get you the name of the person who my friend hired to translate the Catechism text...

CM · « **Reply #33 on:** July 19, 2009, 09:39:17 PM »

Here is the guy: thelatintranslator.com

Elizabeth · « **Reply #34 on:** July 19, 2009, 10:11:40 PM »

:roll-laugh1:

hey thanks, hope it wasn't too expensive :dancing-banana:

CM · « **Reply #35 on:** July 19, 2009, 10:19:43 PM »

Are you afraid to post the parts of Stepanich's bogus article that have convinced you?

roscoe · « **Reply #36 on:** July 19, 2009, 11:54:14 PM »

It seems as if Stepanich was an adherent of the v2 anti-popes when the article was written. That would make him a heretic if he was conscious of what he was doing and only he can say that. Is he still of that mind?

I am holding to my opinion that the piece of paper allegedly ex communicating Fr Feeney is as fraudulent as the paper indicting Cardinal Rampolla. If Pius XIII(II) never took any action against him then it is good enough for me.

Also the attempt of Stepanich making something sinister out of Fr Feeneys later statement that the Pope supported him via Humanum Generis is most disingenuous imo.

roscoe · « **Reply #37 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:25:29 AM »

Was Stepanich in the room when Pius XII 'personally gave explicit orders summoning Fr Feeney to Rome'? What is the source of this remark?

CM · « **Reply #38 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:37:01 AM »

Dawn · « **Reply #39 on:** July 20, 2009, 08:16:35 AM »

So, let me get this straight in my mind. Fr. Martin Stepanich is a heretic, Thomas Aquinas, Pius XII and so many more do not understand the teachings of the Catholic Church in the Correct light. You are telling me that the only persons who understand the true teachings of the Church are you Catholic Martyr and one or two others on this site, the Dimond brothers (who by the way have fleeced a young man of over 1 million dollars proving that, in their world people who recieved Baptism of Blood are going to Hell but not people who steal money) and some guy out in New Mexico (Richard Ibyarri of the St. John the Baptist website)? Do I understand this correctly?

CMMM · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:15:36 AM »

Quote from: Dawn

So, let me get this straight in my mind. Fr. Martin Stepanich is a heretic, Thomas Aquinas, Pius XII and so many more do not understand the teachings of the Catholic Church in the Correct light. You are telling me that the only persons who understand the true teachings of the Church are you Catholic Martyr and one or two others on this site, the Dimond brothers (who by the way have fleeced a young man of over 1 million dollars proving that, in their world people who recieved Baptism of Blood are going to Hell but not people who steal money) and some guy out in New Mexico (Richard Ibyarri of the St. John the Baptist website)? Do I understand this correctly?

From what I've read, CM does not support either the Dimonds or Ibranyi, as he has them on his Heretic List.

But yes, I believe by his definition today, if they existed, the majority, if not all, of the Catholic founding fathers and church doctors, and many saints, would be heretics of some sort, whether occult or public.

At least, from what I've read so far. There are quite a few articles to read on his blog, it will take some time.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #41 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:55:15 AM »

So why not just be a Protestant? Because that is the whole point-they have "proven" our religion to be full of false prophets, popes, saints, theologians, etc. Plus, they get to decide according to their own interpretations, also.

Dawn · « **Reply #42 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:57:43 AM »

Then, Catholic Martyr, what is the point? St. Leonard of Port Maurice wrote of the FEWNESS of those saved, not that the MAJORITY are damned. It is not easy to live a saintly life, but to think that the Trinity set us all up to try our absolute best, and in the case of those in Communist/Muslim countries who are trying to follow Christ and his teachings, even to the point of martyrdom (for pity sake they are crucifying children as young as 7-10 years of age as they will not deny Christ) will be told the are sentenced to Hell for not receiving Baptism by Water. God is Just, he is not Cruel.

Caio di Corea · « **Reply #43 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:07:29 PM »

Quote from: Dawn

Then, Catholic Martyr, what is the point? St. Leonard of Port Maurice wrote of the FEWNESS of those saved, not that the MAJORITY are damned. It is not easy to live a saintly life, but to think that the Trinity set us all up to try our absolute best, and in the case of those in Communist/Muslim countries who are trying to follow Christ and his teachings, even to the point of martyrdom (for pity sake they are crucifying children as young as 7-10 years of age as they will not deny Christ) will be told the are sentenced to Hell for not receiving Baptism by Water. God is Just, he is not Cruel.

http://eens123.blogspot.com/2008/12/st.html

Dawn · « **Reply #44 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:39:01 PM »

I was asked, and I know that I can quote him here,, but for the record, Father Martin Stepanich calls Benedict 16 and JP2 "Illegal Occupants of the Chair of Peter."