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Fr. Leonard Feeney - Who is he what did he teach?
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2010, 02:42:07 PM »
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  • I just found a link to it online, but the catechism has been edited on this point:

    http://www.willingshepherds.org/My%20Catholic%20faith/My%20Catholic%20Info.htm#Salvation%20and%20the%20Catholic%20Church
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    « Reply #46 on: October 12, 2010, 02:47:20 PM »
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  • If it had stated originally like what this RMO person has put, I don't think I would have thrown it out.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    « Reply #47 on: October 12, 2010, 02:48:26 PM »
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    I threw out My Catholic Faith catechism because it stated explicitly that there is salvation outside the Church.


    What is it that the Church teaches then?

    I will tell you what I was taught pre-Vatican II.  There are only Catholics in Heaven.  I am sure that the good Dominican Sisters meant by this that regardless of what you were here in this vale of tears, there are only Catholics in Heaven.  I, however, took her literally.

    I was taught that you had to be baptized to be saved.  That those who were not baptized and died without mortal sin on their souls, went to limbo.  

    Someone either intending to convert to Catholicism or already taking classes to convert would be saved if he and/or she died before they were baptized and officially entered the Church.

    No much hope was held out to us for those who weren't Catholic though, which is why there was such a campaign to convert people (Maryknoll, and other missionary orders).  I distinctly remember having a fund in school  to ransom "Pagan Babies".


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    « Reply #48 on: October 12, 2010, 02:52:25 PM »
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  • What is the best Catechism then?  I have found some questionable things in my Baltimore Catechism (Fr. Connell Edition).

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    « Reply #49 on: October 12, 2010, 02:56:23 PM »
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    I will tell you what I was taught pre-Vatican II.  There are only Catholics in Heaven.


    Technically that is true. Besides the doctrines of the Holy Trinity and the Incarnation all other doctrines can be believed implicitly.

    Although a person may believe false doctrines, if they are in a state of invincible ignorance then they aren't truly heretics, but material heretics are not members of the Church, but membership in the Church is not absolutely necessary, what is, is that a person die within the Catholic Church, belonging to the soul of the Church in re, and the body of the Church in desire, but this desire can be implicit.

    That's a long sentence  :smirk:
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    « Reply #50 on: October 12, 2010, 02:57:29 PM »
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    What is the best Catechism then?  I have found some questionable things in my Baltimore Catechism (Fr. Connell Edition).


    That is the one I use the most, besides my Catechism of the Council of Trent.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    « Reply #51 on: October 12, 2010, 02:59:30 PM »
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  • The only catechism I give to family members is the Penny Catechism. I can't force them to read it, but I pray they do.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    « Reply #52 on: October 12, 2010, 03:03:56 PM »
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    What is the best Catechism then?  I have found some questionable things in my Baltimore Catechism (Fr. Connell Edition).


    That is the one I use the most, besides my Catechism of the Council of Trent.


    My Catechism of the Council of Trent went to the dumpster thanks to my family, and I can't afford to buy another.  I do miss it.  


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    « Reply #53 on: October 12, 2010, 03:11:45 PM »
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  • If you don't mind reading off the computer,

    http://www.archive.org/details/catechismofcoun00cathuoft

    To the left you have different formats, I usually just download the PDF when getting books off here. It's much easier on the eyes than reading a html format.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    « Reply #54 on: October 12, 2010, 03:15:39 PM »
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  • By the way, you can find a lot of free books off that site. Instead of paying $100 for all of Fr. Faber's books from TAN I just downloaded them from there, although I've been reading other things lately. They're not in copyright.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    « Reply #55 on: October 12, 2010, 03:28:00 PM »
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  • Thanks, but the internet is quite hard on my aging eyes.  It is also, for some reason, hard for me to comprehend what I am reading when I read things on the internet.  Our printer isn't working either so I can't print anything out.  

    When Our Lord sees fit to send us a financial bonus, there are not a few books on my "to buy" list - including that dear Fr. Faber (his books went the way of the dumpster too).


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    « Reply #56 on: October 12, 2010, 03:31:21 PM »
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  • Alexandria   - a source for downloading  the Trent Catechism (300+ pages):

    http://www.freecatholicebooks.com/books/catechism_of_trent.pdf

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    « Reply #57 on: October 12, 2010, 03:53:58 PM »
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  • To Myrna --

    How do you know that BOB and BOD are de fide?  Some one told you?  Who?  You read it?  Where?

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    « Reply #58 on: October 12, 2010, 04:12:17 PM »
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  • I was taught in a Catholic school, years before Vatican II.  

    Plus you can read it in almost any catechism book you pick up, even today.  
    Please pray for my soul.
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    « Reply #59 on: October 12, 2010, 06:15:41 PM »
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  • Unless I am mistaken, Myrna has also been taught that the Fr Popes of GWS were( are)  anti-popes-- this is incorrect.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'