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Feeneyites and Sedes Give Trads a Bad Name
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 09:06:29 PM »
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: Jehanne
SJB's quote:  Feeneyites openly deny theologically certain doctrines.

So does nearly everyone else.  If I had to, I would choose Feeneyism over the indifferent universalism of the modernists.  Let's consider a new Wager, call it "Don's Wager," if you will:

A)  Universalism is correct; everyone gets saved and goes to Heaven.  (Hurray!!!!)

B)  Universalism is not correct; some (perhaps, most) individuals end-up in Hell, forever.  (What a horrible thought to lose one's soul!!!)


Okay, we all agree Option A is much, much (indeed, infinitely) better than Option B.  Now, if we embrace Feeneyism, what are the consequences?  Let's see:

If Option A is true:  People think we are jerks, but as everyone goes to Heaven anyway; in the end, it really does not matter, does it?

If Option B is true:  We evangelize like mad, do penance, pray for people, put the salvation of souls as being the most (if not, the only) important thing in our lives, and in the end, more people in the end are saved, which means more souls in Heaven, fewer in Hell (we hope -- well, at least we tried, didn't we?)

On the other hand, consider embracing liberal modernism, and I will leave it to you (or someone else) to explore the outcomes.


Except your choices are wrong. Why not understand it as the Church teaches it.


Okay, fine, what exactly does the Church teach?

Offline SJB

Feeneyites and Sedes Give Trads a Bad Name
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 11:00:04 PM »
Quote from: Jehanne
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: Jehanne
SJB's quote:  Feeneyites openly deny theologically certain doctrines.

So does nearly everyone else.  If I had to, I would choose Feeneyism over the indifferent universalism of the modernists.  Let's consider a new Wager, call it "Don's Wager," if you will:

A)  Universalism is correct; everyone gets saved and goes to Heaven.  (Hurray!!!!)

B)  Universalism is not correct; some (perhaps, most) individuals end-up in Hell, forever.  (What a horrible thought to lose one's soul!!!)


Okay, we all agree Option A is much, much (indeed, infinitely) better than Option B.  Now, if we embrace Feeneyism, what are the consequences?  Let's see:

If Option A is true:  People think we are jerks, but as everyone goes to Heaven anyway; in the end, it really does not matter, does it?

If Option B is true:  We evangelize like mad, do penance, pray for people, put the salvation of souls as being the most (if not, the only) important thing in our lives, and in the end, more people in the end are saved, which means more souls in Heaven, fewer in Hell (we hope -- well, at least we tried, didn't we?)

On the other hand, consider embracing liberal modernism, and I will leave it to you (or someone else) to explore the outcomes.


Except your choices are wrong. Why not understand it as the Church teaches it.


Okay, fine, what exactly does the Church teach?


Universal salvation is an error. That does not make the feeneyite position correct simply because it is not the error of universal salvation.

You and I do not have the same rule of Faith. You have chosen a different rule. Until this is addressed, any discussion is pointless.


Feeneyites and Sedes Give Trads a Bad Name
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 11:06:13 PM »
Feenyism is a heresy, condemed by the Pope.

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Feeneyites and Sedes Give Trads a Bad Name
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 11:14:55 PM »
Quote from: TheD
Feenyism is a heresy, condemed by the Pope.


Source for this?

Offline CM

Feeneyites and Sedes Give Trads a Bad Name
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 11:48:14 PM »
Quote from: SJB
Quote from: TheD
Feenyism is a heresy, condemed by the Pope.


Source for this?


The father of lies.