Author Topic: Feeneyites and Sedes Give Trads a Bad Name (Read 15877 times)

stevusmagnus · « **on:** September 29, 2009, 05:26:55 PM »

http://voiceofcatholicradio.com/090927m17th_sun_aft_pent,fr_robinson,final,38_min.mp3

Elizabeth · « **Reply #1 on:** September 29, 2009, 06:09:57 PM »

I heard that one. He's a dear priest.

SJB · « **Reply #2 on:** September 29, 2009, 06:38:47 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

http://voiceofcatholicradio.com/090927m17th_sun_aft_pent,fr_robinson,final,38_min.mp3

Feeneyites openly deny theologically certain doctrines.

Sedevacantists deny no such doctrines.

Many (not all) SSPX priests distort or implicitly deny theologically certain doctrines.

Both SSPX and Sedevacantists have their problems...because they are just resisting groups. Let's not pretend the problems are all in the SV camp. The feeneyites simply do not have the same rule of faith that Catholics do.

I think the sectarian attitude of some traditionalists (laymen) is a very sad situation.

Jehanne · « **Reply #3 on:** September 29, 2009, 07:59:31 PM »

SJB's quote: Feeneyites openly deny theologically certain doctrines.

So does nearly everyone else. If I had to, I would choose Feeneyism over the indifferent universalism of the modernists. Let's consider a new Wager, call it "Don's Wager," if you will:

A) Universalism is correct; everyone gets saved and goes to Heaven. (Hurray!!!!)

B) Universalism is not correct; some (perhaps, most) individuals end-up in Hell, forever. (What a horrible thought to lose one's soul!!!)

Okay, we all agree Option A is much, much (indeed, infinitely) better than Option B. Now, if we embrace Feeneyism, what are the consequences? Let's see:

If Option A is true: People think we are jerks, but as everyone goes to Heaven anyway; in the end, it really does not matter, does it?

If Option B is true: We evangelize like mad, do penance, pray for people, put the salvation of souls as being the most (if not, the only) important thing in our lives, and in the end, more people in the end are saved, which means more souls in Heaven, fewer in Hell (we hope -- well, at least we tried, didn't we?)

On the other hand, consider embracing liberal modernism, and I will leave it to you (or someone else) to explore the outcomes.

SJB · « **Reply #4 on:** September 29, 2009, 08:03:32 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

SJB's quote: Feeneyites openly deny theologically certain doctrines.

So does nearly everyone else. If I had to, I would choose Feeneyism over the indifferent universalism of the modernists. Let's consider a new Wager, call it "Don's Wager," if you will:

A) Universalism is correct; everyone gets saved and goes to Heaven. (Hurray!!!!)

B) Universalism is not correct; some (perhaps, most) individuals end-up in Hell, forever. (What a horrible thought to lose one's soul!!!)

Okay, we all agree Option A is much, much (indeed, infinitely) better than Option B. Now, if we embrace Feeneyism, what are the consequences? Let's see:

If Option A is true: People think we are jerks, but as everyone goes to Heaven anyway; in the end, it really does not matter, does it?

If Option B is true: We evangelize like mad, do penance, pray for people, put the salvation of souls as being the most (if not, the only) important thing in our lives, and in the end, more people in the end are saved, which means more souls in Heaven, fewer in Hell (we hope -- well, at least we tried, didn't we?)

On the other hand, consider embracing liberal modernism, and I will leave it to you (or someone else) to explore the outcomes.

Except your choices are wrong. Why not understand it as the Church teaches it.