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Offline VivaJesus

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Feast of St. Athanasius
« on: May 02, 2025, 09:51:38 AM »
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  • Happy and holy feast of St. Athanasius, except to those who obstinately believe that the "invincibly ignorant" can be saved.

    Here's what the saint and doctor that we commemorate today said about the absolute necessity of believing in the Trinity and the Incarnation for salvation:

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    Whoever wishes to be saved must, above all, keep the Catholic faith.
    For unless a person keeps this faith whole and entire, he will undoubtedly be lost forever.
    This is what the Catholic faith teaches: we worship one God in the Trinity and the Trinity in unity.

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    It is also necessary for eternal salvation that he believes steadfastly in the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Thus the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and man.

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    This is the Catholic faith. Everyone must believe it, firmly and steadfastly; otherwise he cannot be saved.

    Amen.

    - from the Athanasian Creed or "Quicuмque"

    Our Lady keep you under her mantle.

    "Blessed is the simplicity which leaveth alone the difficult paths of questionings, and followeth the plain and firm steps of God’s commandments." - The Imitation of Christ

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Feast of St. Athanasius
    « Reply #1 on: May 02, 2025, 09:59:04 AM »
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  • Well, it wasn't just St. Athanasius.  I started a thread with plenty of evidence that the Church Fathers unanimously believed that explicit faith in the Holy Trinity and Incarnation at least are necessary for salvation.

    In fact, the first known proponents of "Rewarder God" theory, i.e. where believe in a God that rewards the good and punishes the wicked would suffice, didn't propose their innovation until the late 1400s.

    If there's anything that was ever a dogma by the Ordinary Universal Magisterium, this was it, and if this isn't, then there's no such thing as anything taught infallibly by the OUM.

    It's intersesting that it was OK for a random Franciscan and a couple of Jesuits to come along and reject nearly 1500 years of prior unanimous consensus, from the Fathers to every signle theologian before their time ... but if Father Feeney comes along and rejects the prior 350-400 years of majoriyt theological opinion, he's a heretic.  Contradiction is so absurd that it's proof of intellectual dishonesty.