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Jehanne · « **Reply #75 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:02:24 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Quote from: Jehanne
Quote from: Catholic Martyr
That is an evolution of the heresy yes, but baptism of desire, being a proposition that is directly opposed to the Solemn Magisterial decrees of Holy Mother Church is the original heresy.

So, you are claiming that the Council of Trent was a heretical council?

No. Why would you say that?

Trent, clearly, speaks of BoD ("vowtum").

CM · « **Reply #76 on:** September 04, 2009, 05:57:33 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

Trent, clearly, speaks of BoD ("vowtum").

No it does not. You are misreading the decree, and falling into the same error that David Hobson dishonestly promotes.

Please review this article, and then get back to me.

It deals specifically with the decree you have in mind.

'Lover of Truth', I will respond to you shortly.

CM · « **Reply #77 on:** September 04, 2009, 08:11:16 PM »

CMMM · « **Reply #78 on:** September 04, 2009, 08:50:14 PM »

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Quote from: Lover of Truth
Wear the scapular and pray the rosary daily asking God to grant you the truth each day. It will come if you are humbe and sincere.

This is actually good advice, provided that the person it is offered to is sincere in seeking the truth, and is willing to let go of all human respect in pursuance of it. In fact, I do it already, and I started quite some time ago.

Who enrolled you in the scapular?

CM · « **Reply #79 on:** September 04, 2009, 08:57:04 PM »

A heretic non priest thought he did, and so did I at the time. However I have since learned better (and found out that he did not do it according to the proposed method). I no longer have that scapular, but I wear the replacement continuously.

I do not know if it can even be properly called a sacramental in my case, since it is not blessed, nor was I enrolled in it by a Catholic clergymen.

It is a reminder to me of my duties to the Blessed Virgin Mary and it reminds me to invoke the Blessed Virgin in times of temptation.