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CM · « **Reply #55 on:** September 02, 2009, 03:53:32 PM »

Belloc, you are missing the point. It is an infallible statement. God the Holy Ghost said "all those who are outside"

He did not say "all those who think they are outside"

or

"all those who choose to be outside"

You find yourself resorting to the Modernist proposition that this decree is not in fact a TRUTH FALLEN FROM HEAVEN.

CMMM · « **Reply #56 on:** September 02, 2009, 04:28:33 PM »

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You find yourself resorting to the Modernist proposition that this decree is not in fact a TRUTH FALLEN FROM HEAVEN.

Or he's understanding the dogma as it was originally declared.

Depends on your viewpoint.

CM · « **Reply #57 on:** September 02, 2009, 04:52:15 PM »

Exactly. If you have a Modernist viewpoint, a decree can have been declared in a sense that in no way follows from the actual words of the same decree.

CM · « **Reply #58 on:** September 02, 2009, 06:43:04 PM »

Jehanne · « **Reply #59 on:** September 02, 2009, 08:59:09 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Belloc, you are missing the point. It is an infallible statement. God the Holy Ghost said "all those who are outside"

He did not say "all those who think they are outside"

or

"all those who choose to be outside"

You find yourself resorting to the Modernist proposition that this decree is not in fact a TRUTH FALLEN FROM HEAVEN.

What about infants who are baptized by non-Catholic priests and/or ministers?