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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: XavierSem and Majegouri
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2021, 09:53:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 25, 2021, 03:07:42 PM
    Maybe Palmar De Troya. However, I found this ex Palmarian bishop who was ordained and consecrated by Clemente Dominguez and he believes that apparitions did occur in Palmar but Clemente was a false seer. Who knows maybe Xavier will adopt this take. :laugh1:

    I guess that's not impossible, that the original apparitions may have been genuine ... though I doubt Our Lady would allow a real apparition to be taken over by the likes of Clemente.

    So, who is this ex-Palmarian bishop you speak of?
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    Re: XavierSem and Majegouri
    « Reply #16 on: March 26, 2021, 11:34:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 26, 2021, 09:53:21 AM
    I guess that's not impossible, that the original apparitions may have been genuine ... though I doubt Our Lady would allow a real apparition to be taken over by the likes of Clemente.

    So, who is this ex-Palmarian bishop you speak of?
    He goes by Fr. Luc. He is the bishop being consecrated in this photo. He also holds that the last Pope was JP II. He probably holds this due to the fact he holds the new rites to be invalid.
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    Re: XavierSem and Majegouri
    « Reply #17 on: March 26, 2021, 12:40:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 26, 2021, 11:34:58 AM
    He goes by Fr. Luc. He is the bishop being consecrated in this photo. He also holds that the last Pope was JP II. He probably holds this due to the fact he holds the new rites to be invalid.


    I would be interested to hear his story, how he decided that Clemente was a fraud but regarded the original apparitions as genuine.
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    Re: XavierSem and Majegouri
    « Reply #18 on: March 28, 2021, 05:12:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 26, 2021, 12:40:42 PM
    I would be interested to hear his story, how he decided that Clemente was a fraud but regarded the original apparitions as genuine.
    He talks about how Palmar was a trad site before Clemente. Below is a take from him.
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    DID OUR LADY APPEAR IN EL PALMAR DE TROYA?
     This is a question that those who have passed thru el Palmar de Troya will have asked themselves. I can only answer for myself.
     Herod wanted Our Lord to do tricks for Him! Heaven does not do tricks for us. Rather Heaven has its purpose; thus if Our Lady did appear then there was a purpose!
     These Apparitions came on the heels of the Second Vatican Council and all the confusion it generated. Many souls ceased to be Catholic by embracing new beliefs. So should we be surprised that Our Lady should appear somewhere? I answer “no”!
     The Seers of Palmar were generally ok but the principle seer, Clemente, was not. He was never on track; he was a charlatan from the beginning. But when I say this I am not saying that he never had any visions. He probably did have some true ones but most that he had were false to aid his own ends.
     What then was Heaven’s purpose? I can only answer the coming of Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc and the true and valid Orders that he bequeathed.
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    Re: XavierSem and Majegouri
    « Reply #19 on: April 10, 2021, 06:50:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 26, 2021, 12:40:42 PM
    I would be interested to hear his story, how he decided that Clemente was a fraud but regarded the original apparitions as genuine.
    Professor Magnus Lundberg released a free book on the Palmarians. Essentially there's a remnant going under a name like Cruce de Blanco or similar, and a white cross near the Palmarian compound is their rallying point. 
    Xavier needs to end his fixation on private revelation. Even if someone confined themselves to approved revelations, it distracts from the core of the Faith, and these revelations can have additional lore which distracts people.
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